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How would you feel if you received this email?

544 replies

SamCam349 · 20/09/2019 00:49

Is this (below) a nice email to receive? What would you think of the sender who wrote it??

‘I will reluctantly speak to you next Tuesday to attempt to address your discriminatory actions. As I mentioned last week, I, personally, do not consider you to be that important, and I would not be entertaining this call were your manager not also be participating.’

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MarieIVanArkleStinks · 20/09/2019 06:56

Very unprofessional no matter what the accusation it’s dealing with.

Discrimination in the workplace is a serious business but there are proper systems and procedures for dealing with it. This email isn’t following these. The recipient could in turn lodge a grievance over this, especially if no one has attempted to consider evidence or establish the facts.

No one but a fool would ever shoot themselves in the foot so spectacularly in writing. This email does nothing but give someone else ammunition against the sender.

Oblomov19 · 20/09/2019 06:57

Is Op seriously asking?
Of course it's seriously bad, and rude. The sender is clearly very very narked. And has no respect for the recipient. Thinks the recipient is incompetent.

yulet · 20/09/2019 06:58

Yeah, trying to think of it from another perspective, it could read as someone who feels like they've been bullied or treated like shit, have long since given up on fixing it and utterly loathe the other person involved. They think there's no point tackling it now - but have been invited to a meeting with person and their manager. I can see that happening.

But it's a stupidly unprofessional email to send and have in writing against you, because that person can now say they always felt you were superior and rude.

Perhaps it's time for a fresh start somewhere else anyway?

Mummyoflittledragon · 20/09/2019 07:00

It is unclear who sent the email even after the last post. It could be sex / racial discrimination or about misgendering someone.

In any case, the email is pretty nasty and if the recipient complained, the sender would only have themselves to blame.

IncrediblySadToo · 20/09/2019 07:00

Context is everything. What did you do to upset them?

Loveislandaddict · 20/09/2019 07:00

@oblomov19 - read that as naked. Not narked![big grin]

C0untDucku1a · 20/09/2019 07:03

Wow that email is nasty.

Cherrysoup · 20/09/2019 07:03

Dumb to send that with all the personal ‘I hate you’ feelings on clear display! Whoever the recipient is, I’d be bringing in the manager having sent on that email. Pretty horrible email to receive.

sunshiney78 · 20/09/2019 07:04

The writer of the email has experienced discrimination by the OP, and does not care to see/meet OP again.

Motherinlawsdung · 20/09/2019 07:07

The message should be shown to the manager who is dealing with the discrimination accusation.

Butchyrestingface · 20/09/2019 07:07

The writer of the email has experienced discrimination by the OP, and does not care to see/meet OP again

I think OP was the keyboard warrior.

boujie · 20/09/2019 07:10

‘I will reluctantly speak to you next Tuesday to attempt to address your discriminatory actions. As I mentioned last week, I, personally, do not consider you to be that important, and I would not be entertaining this call were your manager not also be participating.’

I don't think anyone would describe it as 'nice', but that doesn't mean it's unjustified - would need to know what the recipient had done to cause it I think.

The part which really crosses the line for me is 'I, personally, do not consider you to be that important' because it feels like a very personal comment and is designed to be hurtful. The rest of it would be fine without that line.

YoMummaWasASnowblower · 20/09/2019 07:11

Did you send the email or receive it?

I think it's quite obvious that it isn't worded nicely and not sure about the need to ask? Whoever wrote it is clearly upset about something that has happened to them. How understandable it is or justified they were in not wording it nicely would depend on the context, which we don't know.

I guess if someone was sending this in a work context then even if someone's behaviour had been inappropriate/discriminatory this email doesn't seem very professional and I'd think there were better recourses to address it via official channels than sending emails like this. It's the bit about not bothering with someone as they aren't important that really tips it over the line for me into unnecessarily not nice/not professional. Sorry if that's not what you want to hear. Regardless of whether you're the sender or receiver I'd be getting some support if it's work related from HR to address the issue :)

colourlessgreenidea · 20/09/2019 07:12

Thanks everyone. It seems quite objective from the poll (39 votes to 2) and the responses that the email was not nice.

Surely you could tell it wasn’t nice without the poll? Confused

I'm off to bed now - very tired - but I guess that I really am a piece of shit then. :/

Maybe you are - impossible to tell given the lack of detail.

Unless you really are ‘Sam Cam’ and you sent it to your husband. In which case, brava!

rwalker · 20/09/2019 07:15

It's impossible to give a proper answer without knowing whats gone on . Something has obviously happen for the person to send it.
with OP not giving any details at all seems as though they are playing the victim .

Smelborp · 20/09/2019 07:16

Did you send it or receive it?

JetPlanesMeeting · 20/09/2019 07:18

OP it is a sad state of affairs when you choose to write that email, but you come across as a child folding their arms saying "sharn't."

You should be seen to be wanting a resolution to what has happened, the whole you are not important makes you sound petulant. In that short email it comes across as you are a grudge holder and not very team spirited, I wouldn't want to work in an office with you because you could make it quite a hostile environment.

If the email has already been sent then it is done. If you were just thinking about sending it then you need to think about how it will be viewed by HR or upper management.

Metempsychosis · 20/09/2019 07:18

“I do not consider you to be that important” is so spectacularly weirdly rude in a work context that people’s minds are jumping to poor translations or typing errors by either the OP or the original sender.

“I do not consider it (or “your actions”) to be that important” is what I’d expect to see.

Quartz2208 · 20/09/2019 07:18

I don’t see why you asked the tone was clear and unprofessional for whoever sent it backstory or not
My feeling is that someone has in the OPs eyes brought a grievance against someone unfairly this will not help
If you are the receiver print it out and take to it

MyOtherProfile · 20/09/2019 07:21

If you received the email I would make sure everyone at the disciplinary meeting has a copy of it.

If you sent it you were very unprofessional.

FamilyOfAliens · 20/09/2019 07:21

Too many commas.

Countrylifeornot · 20/09/2019 07:21

OP, stop being a massive drip and give us some context.
This is AIBU after all, and you clearly are.

Morgan12 · 20/09/2019 07:24

I think, the sender, whomever they are, really, needs to learn the correct use of a comma.

OtraCosaMariposa · 20/09/2019 07:26

Unprofessional. Hostile. Rude.

‘I will reluctantly speak to you next Tuesday to attempt to address your discriminatory actions

Adding "reluctantly" and "attempt" are what makes it hostile and rude. OP could have written "I will speak to you next Tuesday to address your discriminatory actions" and that would have had the same meaning without the little passive aggressive digs. Attempt implies "well, let's have a meeting but we both know nothing will come of it".

OP clearly thinks she's been discriminated against in some way. But that's no excuse for this level of nasty.

GreatBigNoise · 20/09/2019 07:26

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