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How would you feel if you received this email?

544 replies

SamCam349 · 20/09/2019 00:49

Is this (below) a nice email to receive? What would you think of the sender who wrote it??

‘I will reluctantly speak to you next Tuesday to attempt to address your discriminatory actions. As I mentioned last week, I, personally, do not consider you to be that important, and I would not be entertaining this call were your manager not also be participating.’

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Jollitwiglet · 20/09/2019 01:27

It is quite a nasty email and I wouldn't be happy to be on the receiving end of it. Telling someone they are not important and that they're only entertaining the call because your manager is involved is rather rude.

It seems unprofessional, but if they were On the receiving end of discrimination I could understand them being so pissed off. Still should try to maintain professionalism though

IsobelRae23 · 20/09/2019 01:28

It’s poorly written whoever has sent it and very unprofessional.

Durgasarrow · 20/09/2019 01:29

Someone is very angry with you. Why?

Benefitofthedoubt · 20/09/2019 01:29

I would say the first part is honest and also shows the person is willing to do their job / carry out their responsibilities (?) even though they don’t want to.

The second part shows disgust for whom the person the email is intended. This part changes the tone considerably. This person really does not like the recipient.

BananasAreTheSourceOfEvil · 20/09/2019 01:30

isabellerossignol hadnt even thought of that! Confused

Don't send that email if that's the case. It comes across as deliberately condescending.

100PercentThatBitch · 20/09/2019 01:30

Hmmm

OP are you asking this because you personally have trouble understanding other people's feelings?

You keep asking how people would feel, but the "well shit obviously" response is so simple you didn't really need to start a thread

if not, and you were the recipient not the sender, as nicely as possible you are trying to deflect from your own behaviour by making the email content the focus

Benefitofthedoubt · 20/09/2019 01:35

I presumed the OP was thinking of sending the mail. The “is it a nice/not nice” email is too silly a question! Of course it’s not nice. I presume the OP wants to know the tone from an outsiders point of view.

First part good. Second part, why mention something you already mentioned last week? It takes the sting out of it. And it’s a bit immature.

SamCam349 · 20/09/2019 01:38

Thanks everyone. It seems quite objective from the poll (39 votes to 2) and the responses that the email was not nice.

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Benefitofthedoubt · 20/09/2019 01:39

If you need to send a reply saying you will be at a meeting, and wants your feelings on record, go with:

“I will reluctantly speak to you next Tuesday to attempt to address your discriminatory actions.”

If it important that you have it in record that you will only meet this person if their manager is present, go with:

“I will reluctantly speak to you next Tuesday to attempt to address your discriminatory actions. As mentioned previously, I would not be entertaining this call were your manager not also be participating.”

Shadow1234 · 20/09/2019 01:42

Definitely not a nice e-mail to receive. The sender has made it very clear that other than the problems that need to be addressed, they also do not like you very much - which is putting their own personal views into the matter - hence, there is no chance of a non-biased meeting happening.

SamCam349 · 20/09/2019 01:42

I'm off to bed now - very tired - but I guess that I really am a piece of shit then. :/

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Benefitofthedoubt · 20/09/2019 01:45

Was it TO you then? What prompted it?

RosesAndRaindrops · 20/09/2019 01:46

Well, I need more context before saying anything.
What is it in relation to? What have you done, or said?
Sounds abrupt yes but with no backstory no idea whether it's justified, thin end of a wedge or what!

100PercentThatBitch · 20/09/2019 01:48

If the verdict in votes was that it wasn't nice and you now feel like a piece of shit, this means you SENT it. Whether it was shitty of you depends entirely on what this person did and how bad it was. Which we don't know.

Shadow1234 · 20/09/2019 01:48

Sorry, I thought you had received the e-mail, not that u were sending it.

AngelsOnHigh · 20/09/2019 01:52

Poorly written and unprofessional. I'd get my ducks in a row and have some kind of work delegate present if the meeting is to go ahead.

Oakandlove · 20/09/2019 01:53

again context, can't vote without it.

AngelsOnHigh · 20/09/2019 01:54

Yep, thought the OP had received it.

Redglitter · 20/09/2019 02:11

Ffs talk about half a story 🙄

lyralalala · 20/09/2019 02:16

It's impossible to say without the context. It could be a blunt, bordering on unprofessional, but understandable email from someone being forced into mediation with someone that has done something hideous to them, or it could be a nasty email from someone with a chip on their shoulder who dislikes someone - or anywhere in between. Without context it's just an email that could be justified or not.

Skippingabeat · 20/09/2019 02:25

Is that correct or a typo? "I, personally, do not consider YOU to be that important"

CinnabarRed · 20/09/2019 02:28

Assuming that this email relates to a work context because of the reference to the manager - work emails aren’t meant to be “nice” or “nasty”.

They’re intended to convey information, give instructions, outline options, facilitate arrangements such as meetings or events, or document positions.

This email is not appropriate in a work context because it’s aggressive, insulting, overly emotional and leading. For example, the sender feels that the recipient’s actions were discriminatory; whether as a matter of fact they were discriminatory or not is impossible to tell.

What was the purpose of the email? It seems that the sender is confirming that he or she will attend the call next Tuesday, conditional on the manager’s attendance also. If that’s right then all the emails needed to say was “I confirm that I will attend the call next Tuesday, conditional on your manager also participating.”

Topseyt · 20/09/2019 02:29

You wrote this post in a very misleading way. You didn't receive the email, you SENT it! You also give us no context within which to judge this. Nothing about what has led up to it.

It is very inflammatory and offensive, on the face of it. If the question was whether you would be attending the meeting or not then you would have been better just confirming that you would be there without adding the rest.

Something caused you to write that though, so the events leading up to it are important.

Snugglepumpkin · 20/09/2019 02:38

If I received that email I would think that it is from a person who does not work well in a team & will never get a promotion.

Telling them they are not that important and reminding them you already did it before is just petty & childish.

Knitclubchatter · 20/09/2019 02:52

i suspect the recipient is getting fired.