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How would you feel if you received this email?

544 replies

SamCam349 · 20/09/2019 00:49

Is this (below) a nice email to receive? What would you think of the sender who wrote it??

‘I will reluctantly speak to you next Tuesday to attempt to address your discriminatory actions. As I mentioned last week, I, personally, do not consider you to be that important, and I would not be entertaining this call were your manager not also be participating.’

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Butchyrestingface · 20/09/2019 07:27

If you sent that email, OP, are you in trouble now?

AmIThough · 20/09/2019 07:28

OPs response made me feel like she wrote and sent the email...

If this person bought a grievance against you and you sent that email you are in some deep doo-doo.

Butchyrestingface · 20/09/2019 07:30

@GreatBigNoise is there some reason you can’t just follow the thread without plopping down ridiculous dots? Confused

fedup21 · 20/09/2019 07:31

As I mentioned last week, I, personally, do not consider you to be that important,

WTF?!

Will the OP actually come back and explain what this is all about?!

SoupDragon · 20/09/2019 07:32

“I am reluctant to get involved in this but have no choice because your manager has instigated it. The whole issue seems very minor and ought to be below the level of needing my attention “

This was my take on it.

I am intrigued as to why people think an email to someone who is discriminating against the sender needs to be "nice"?

Choice4567 · 20/09/2019 07:33
Confused
KitKat1985 · 20/09/2019 07:33

Yes that e-mail is clearly rude. Telling someone they are not important is always rude and unprofessional.

I'm another one confused to if you sent or received this e-mail?

Travis1 · 20/09/2019 07:34

Confused 5 pages and none the wiser. Happy Friday

mumsiedarlingrevolta · 20/09/2019 07:38

I think without context it is impossible to evaluate but the question is def not wether the email is "Nice"

It depends entirely on what your role is, who wrote the email and what happened to make them write it in the first place.

A complaint email does not have to be "nice"

Kanga83 · 20/09/2019 07:38

It's unprofessional at best, and in terms of attending to address the discrimination, it's reads as though the sender is not prepared to attend the meeting with reconciliation and remedy in mind. Obviously there is a huge backstory here, however if the one who has caused the grievance has messaged the sender, the best thing would have been for the sender of this email to say 'all contact is to be discussed at the meeting next week in the presence of your manager'.

Butchyrestingface · 20/09/2019 07:41

I am intrigued as to why people think an email to someone who is discriminating against the sender needs to be "nice"?

Nobody knows that the sender has been discriminated against, only that they appear to believe they have. The meeting - which is hardly likely to happen now - may have been to flesh that out.

A lot more detail is required. And OP is off in the land of nod. 😴

I agree that if one has been on the receiving end of discriminatory behaviour, such an email is hardly likely to be all palsy walsy. However, if you can’t even keep a civil tongue in your head for the purposes of confirming an arranged discussion, then there’s no point in going ahead with it.

*PLUS, the email states that the sender has already told the recipient he/she doesn’t consider them “important”.” Confused. It appears this is not the first communication of this nature from them. ¯\(ツ)

Chitarra · 20/09/2019 07:43

Unless you really are Sam Cam and you sent it to your husband Grin

CiliatedEpithelium · 20/09/2019 07:44

The writer, whether employer, manager or employee needs their head wobbled.

One might think these things but putting them in print is crazy.

MeggyMeg · 20/09/2019 07:45

Presumably the call is an attempt at mediation after a complaint at work?

It sounds to me as though the sender has no intention of mediation and has their head up their arse. And most likely just wants to try and her a pay off. Its unprofessional, too personal and aggressive.

wowfudge · 20/09/2019 07:48

I think SoupDragon is correct as to the intention. What was actually written is appalling! It's pompous, unclear and confusing.

Even if the OP had sent SoupDragon's version, that would be implying the manager was wrong to ask for a meeting to discuss whatever it was and undermines the manager.

Quartz2208 · 20/09/2019 07:54

Of course it doesn’t have to be nice it does have to be professional though and contain noth8ng that could be used in the disciplinary process as evidence. I am shocked that someone thought it to be so

LissieJess · 20/09/2019 07:56

We need to know the context!!!

Janleverton · 20/09/2019 07:56

It’s a very unpleasant email which smacks of “I’ll talk to the mechanic not the oily rag” (which was actually said to me once when I was a junior. It’s stuck with me and even 25 years later I remember the rudeness and the underlying judgement).

dollydaydream114 · 20/09/2019 07:57

Thread is largely meaningless because the OP refuses to give any context.

73Sunglasslover · 20/09/2019 07:59

Clearly the person sending it did not mean it to sound nice so it's a bit of an irrelevant question.

Janleverton · 20/09/2019 08:00

You can be firm and critical without resorting to putting down the person you’re communicating with with passive (and active) digs.

Straightforward and matter of fact

‘Since your manager will be participating I will speak to you next Tuesday so we can try to address your discriminatory actions.”

Butchyrestingface · 20/09/2019 08:01

Clearly the person sending it did not mean it to sound nice so it's a bit of an irrelevant question.

If OP was indeed the sender then I got the impression that she was a bit taken aback by MN’s interpretation of the email’s tone. Grin

PleasantVille · 20/09/2019 08:03

Whoever sent or received it it's not a professional way to word an email.

The votes mean nothing OP, I can't even see them on the app, read what people have written to get a proper feel for the reactions.

Blingysolightly · 20/09/2019 08:05

Hope you didn't send that email OP. if it comes to light you would be disciplined in my company.

But context is important!

SamCam349 · 20/09/2019 08:06

I am on the train, on my way to work. I guess a steep glass of red would be in order this morning!!!!

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