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How would you feel if you received this email?

544 replies

SamCam349 · 20/09/2019 00:49

Is this (below) a nice email to receive? What would you think of the sender who wrote it??

‘I will reluctantly speak to you next Tuesday to attempt to address your discriminatory actions. As I mentioned last week, I, personally, do not consider you to be that important, and I would not be entertaining this call were your manager not also be participating.’

OP posts:
Parsimon · 21/09/2019 17:59

To save anyone else scrolling through 18 pages of posts in an attempt to unearth some context:

The OP sent the message.
The OP got fired.
The OP has not provided any backstory.

Sandii · 21/09/2019 18:00

If you are sending it, you’re an arse.
If you received it, they’re an arse.
If a manager sent it to an employee ( or the other way round ) it’s wholly unprofessional and HR should be alerted.

ToftyAC · 21/09/2019 18:01

I’d be fucking fuming to receive such a shitty, rude email.

howyoulikemenow · 21/09/2019 18:02

Totally unprofessional to send and frankly stupid to put something like that in writing.

OhTheRoses · 21/09/2019 18:03

The tone is bullying and insubordinate. If the sender was on probation or without employment rights I would consider it as potential gross misconduct. The the sender were a long standing employee and there was context I would consider commissioning an investigation to establish the facts.

exaltedwombat · 21/09/2019 18:05

Here's an alternative reading.

This doesn't seem to be from someone who has English as their first language. So allow for some words being used inaccurately.

You did something borderline discriminatory. The 'victim' sees it as no big deal. But unfortunately your manager got involved.

Lulu49 · 21/09/2019 18:11

Did you receive it or are you sending it?

Glitterfisher · 21/09/2019 18:15

Here's a thought, you could RTFT. Seriously there are 19 pages, do you not think it's likely that the OP has explained so more?!!

Danny8558 · 21/09/2019 18:15

No one has the right to speak to someone like that in a work situation. It’s just common politeness.
I detect a man speaking here.

Spotsmum · 21/09/2019 18:15

I think it's a horrible email and if you were one of my team and sent that email to a colleague, I would absolutely be giving you a formal warning.

Glitterfisher · 21/09/2019 18:28

The OP was fired, they have posted that!

user1473878824 · 21/09/2019 18:28

19 pages in and no one thinks to even glance at other comments? OP wrote the email, OP has been fired.

CorBlimeyGovenor · 21/09/2019 18:28

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OhTheRoses · 21/09/2019 18:33

Point taken. Unspeakable. However, I hope the OP is OK. I can only imagine somebody sending that may have issues

Gilead51 · 21/09/2019 18:33

I agree that it seems to have been written by someone whose first language isn't English. It's so badly written and so devoid of discernible meaning that I'd be tempted to ignore it, were it not that the writer seems to want to be offensive. Better ask the sender face to face what it's all about. You'll get no sense from someone who writes like this. Not worth getting annoyed about and certainly not anything to justify foul language in response.

supersop60 · 21/09/2019 18:39

It's an awful email.
It's full of anger and is badly written. If I got this I would bin it (whether or not the sender was justified)

PumpityPumpPump · 21/09/2019 18:48

You can't send that in an e mail at work! 😱

Twowilldo50 · 21/09/2019 19:01

although OP hasn’t filled us in, I have been bullied and if I was forced to meet my bully I would be reluctant to do so. I can understand, without thinking it is elegantly worded, the email if that is the scenario. It’s hard to say anything more without information, but hope that if that IS what was happening that at some point you can put your side over. I can’t think you would be fired over the email though, there must be more to this. You must have a protected characteristic to be discriminated against. Some characteristics would make being forced to communicate with a bully very difficult.

Gooseygoosey12345 · 21/09/2019 19:16

I would have fired you too. It's not just what was said in the email, it's the whole tone of it. I could not have someone like that representing my company or expect their colleagues to put up with that. You need to work on yourself OP. Learn to be more professional and if you have issues with someone at work go through the correct channels and keep the ranting and bitching out of the workplace

NoisingUpNissan · 21/09/2019 19:27

Such a misjudged email that you can't possibly be surprised, I'd have fired you.

BrendasUmbrella · 21/09/2019 19:40

As you've been fired anyway, it might be useful to know the context? Perhaps you can be given some appropriate advice in that case.

janebond007 · 21/09/2019 19:45

Its still not clear if the OP was the one discriminated against or what.

If a discrimination victim, or someone helping a discrimination victim, then dismissal is too harsh a penalty IMO.

OP you should call ACAS and start a claim for unfair dismissal and victimisation.

You shouldn't have sent that email but dismissal was too extreme a penalty....assuming you weren't already on a final written warning?

You should be able to claim JSA, housing benefit etc...not that I'm an expert on this.

I do sympathise, I have a discrimination claim myself and have made a few mistakes out of anger about the whole situation which they are using against me also.

If you are in a union, speak to them ASAP. My union have been great.

Snowman123 · 21/09/2019 19:58

Totally inappropriate email for the workplace....

Ginger1982 · 21/09/2019 19:59

There's obviously a massive backstory here. Having read it a few times it sounds as though OP felt discriminated against for something and was being forced into some sort of meeting and has sent the email in a fit of anger and been sacked. More context definitely needed though.

Meirou90 · 21/09/2019 20:03

Wasted my time reading this shitpost, who cares without context.