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AIBU?

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To think that 3 glasses of wine with a meal is hardly ‘downing a bottle’

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Musicalstatues · 19/09/2019 09:21

Dh and I went out for a meal last night for our wedding anniversary. We had a lovely evening. I typically have 2 glasses of wine when we go out but ordered a 3rd last night as it was very nice and I just fancied another one. So 3 glasses over the course of a meal. Yes they were large so about the equivalent of a bottle but AIBU to be a irritated at dh asking me how my head is this morning as I ‘downed a bottle of wine last night’? For context we had a stupid mini row at the end of the meal which was a shame but we both overreacted over something fairly minor. He seems to be implying that it was my fault because of how much I drank.

The background is that dh doesn’t really drink, maybe only at the odd special occasion or on holiday. He used to but stopped a few years ago. I would say that I’m a fairly typical drinker, I pretty much never drink sun-thur (last night obviously being a special occasion) I may have a glass or 2 at home on a Friday night but often don’t. We usually go out for a meal on Saturdays and I usually have a couple of glasses then, and maybe another one at home. I am very rarely properly drunk. The last time I had an awful stay in bed hangover was over a year ago. I think my drinking is pretty average? And yet dh feels the need to comment on it all the time and act like I’m some kind of alcoholic just because I enjoy a couple of glasses of wine. I am getting really tired of it to be honest.

So, aibu to think that 3 glasses of wine with a meal is not excessive and hardly the same as ‘downing a bottle?’

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woodchuck99 · 20/09/2019 10:02

That the OP being drunk caused the argument

She wasn't drunk though.

GinDaddy · 20/09/2019 10:04

@woodchuck99

Out of curiosity..how do you know the OP wasn't drunk in any way?

She might have been at least tipsy after three large glasses of wine?

If she wasn't, then perhaps that throws up another discussion entirely.

Jellybeansincognito · 20/09/2019 10:05

@Musicalstatues

It shouldn’t be socially acceptable to do either.

So you think it should be socially unacceptable to eat a lot of ice cream too. You have serious issues. I bet that you have or have had issues with food haven't you?

^ I’ve not once suggested a liver function test,
Yes I don’t think we should be consuming anything in excess. What’s wrong with that?
So I suggest that we shouldn’t be enabling excessive consumption of ice cream or alcohol yet I’m the one that has serious issues?

Ok then....

Jellybeansincognito · 20/09/2019 10:06

Exactly @Gindaddy

Musicalstatues · 20/09/2019 10:07

I’ve pretty much stopped making further comment now but had to pop on and say yes I was definitely drunk! Not falling over drunk but definitely drunk. I was just lucky enough to not really have a hangover!
I did mention in a previous post that in hindsight I thought I was more responsible for the argument so have apologised to dh for that.

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Jellybeansincognito · 20/09/2019 10:07

Oh for goodness sake- musicalstatues sorry for the tag, every time I tag someone and press space it changes to you 😅.
I meant you, @woodchuck99

woodchuck99 · 20/09/2019 10:08

She might have been at least tipsy after three large glasses of wine?

Yes, probably feeling the effects but unless she is very small I doubt that she was drunk and irrational if the wine was drunk over 2.5 hours with a meal.

Musicalstatues · 20/09/2019 10:09

@Jellybeansincognito not sure why I am tagged in that post as none of those quotes are things I’ve said?

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Musicalstatues · 20/09/2019 10:09

@Jellybeansincognito crossed post!

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Wehttam · 20/09/2019 10:11

He probably didn’t enjoy the way 3 glasses changed your personality and made you a bit mouthy. As a non drinker you notice the these things. Stick to 2 glasses next time 😉

Greggers2017 · 20/09/2019 10:11

OP! You are not an excessive drinker. I drink about the same as you over a week. I sometimes have gin midweek too. Shock horror.
9 units is the average bottle of wine and 1 unit takes an hour to leave your body, plus you and it with food so you'll be fine to drive this morning.

woodchuck99 · 20/09/2019 10:13

Yes I don’t think we should be consuming anything in excess. What’s wrong with that?
So I suggest that we shouldn’t be enabling excessive consumption of ice cream or alcohol yet I’m the one that has serious issues?

You said that it should be "socially unacceptable" to consume anything in excess which is not the same thing. I'm sure that we all have too much of something that isn't healthy on the odd occasion but as long as it is only very occasional it won't do any harm and to suggest that it should be socially unacceptable to do that suggests to me that you have issues. Do you never overeat even at Christmas for example?

Jellybeansincognito · 20/09/2019 10:16

@woodchuck99 of course it’s the same thing! It seems to be socially acceptable to drink in excess, it’s not good.

I can’t be bothered to discuss this anymore, if you think a bottle of wine in one go is fine then more fool you, enjoy yourself with your head in the bottom of a glass every weekend.

NoSauce · 20/09/2019 10:16

She wasn't drunk though

You can’t know that and plus the OP has just herself she was.

woodchuck99 · 20/09/2019 10:25

I can’t be bothered to discuss this anymore, if you think a bottle of wine in one go is fine then more fool you, enjoy yourself with your head in the bottom of a glass every weekend.

Interesting that you assume that I drink a lot. I don't drink anything at all and haven't done for several years due to medication. I have no agenda and I still think that those who are making a big deal about the fact that OP drunk one bottle of wine are either very naive or have issues.

timshelthechoice · 20/09/2019 10:58

Exactly, wood! I also don't drink at all.

BackToTheOIdHouse · 20/09/2019 11:16

It shouldn’t be socially acceptable to do either

@Jellybeansincognito eating a tub of ice cream once every six months (the analogy I gave) should be socially unacceptable. What do you think should be socially acceptable, for heaven's sake? No fun ever? Never letting your hair down, ever? Do you never allow yourself, say, a little blow out at Christmas?

I'm concerned that you have real issues surrounding food/calories. I promise I'm not being patronising when I say that perhaps threads like this are best avoided if they upset you in this way.

Greggers2017 · 20/09/2019 11:20

@Jellybeansincognito wow! You really need to step into the big wide world. A bottle of wine is approximately 9 units. The recommended safe limit is below 14 units. 9 units occasionally is not an issue.
If the people on my case load at work were occasionally drinking 9 units and were happy with that level of drinking themselves, they would be discharged as successful or transferred to the recovery team. If I took a referral for someone who drank 9 units occasionally and they didn't see it as a problem themselves I would put it in the shredder!

nowayhose · 20/09/2019 11:28

All the people on here who are saying that they do not appreciate others being 'snarky' or 'sanctimonious' about how much they drink or whether they drink at all seem oblivious to societies changing attitudes to alcohol.

First it was the smokers who were outraged, for exactly the same judgemental attitudes towards them ( and I imagine they're still upset about it), then society seemed to focus on the obese/ overweight members of society, and judging them for their personal habits (every day there is yet another post concerning 'fat shaming' or posters being judged by what and how much they eat) or how this costs our NHS huge amounts of money with the increase in diabetes/ heart disease/ cholesterol etc, and now it seems it is the turn of the drinkers................I actually see no difference between any of them.

Everyone is entitled to make their own decisions, regardless of whether they make 'healthy' decisions.
And everyone will get upset at being 'judged' by others, but this seems to be the new 'norm' for our society. Better get used to it folks, cos it's not going away anytime soon I imagine. :(

Blue7 · 20/09/2019 11:30

He probably didn’t enjoy the way 3 glasses changed your personality and made you a bit mouthy. As a non drinker you notice the these things. Stick to 2 glasses next time 😉

Grin

Mumsnet is so funny. I might start a thread about buying a jelly belly airfreshner for my car this morning so I can get called a chav by strangers.

Then I'm drip feed and say I had a bottle of wine last night and was probably still drunk so that's why I did it.

Jellybeansincognito · 20/09/2019 11:40

@BackToTheOIdHouse I really don’t, but thanks.

Jellybeansincognito · 20/09/2019 11:43

I linked to food because often it’s socially acceptable to overeat just like it is drinking, it’s not good and doesn’t make it ok.

How have you come to the conclusion that I must be suffering with a food/ eating disorder because I disagree that drinking a whole bottle of wine with a meal is ok?

You are quite frankly, out of your mind.

BackToTheOIdHouse · 20/09/2019 11:44

@Jellybeansincognito sorry. It's just that the suggestion that a tub of ice cream to oneself twice a year is excessive gave that impression.

daydreamer45 · 20/09/2019 11:45

After reading these comments I'm guessing it's not Mumsnetters who are clearing the shelves of gin in the supermarkets!!

Jellybeansincognito · 20/09/2019 11:49

@BackToTheOIdHouse I never said that, I said eating a tub of ice cream is excessive, it doesn’t matter how often it is. It’s still excessive consumption.

Same with the alcohol, it doesn’t matter how often someone does it, drinking a whole bottle in one go is excessive drinking. You seem to be excusing it because it’s not done very often, that’s irrelevant.

How many of you would actually sit with a non drinker during a meal and get yourself drunk like op did? Surely you can see that’s an issue in itself.
Stop excusing it.