To think Sam Smith is being ridiculous?

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For asking to be called they/them?

Not really an MRA.. just don't like that suicide is the leading cause of death amongst men of a certain age

I'm don't like that countless women die at the hands of men in their lives, be they husbands, ex-partners or aggrieved men whom assault random women.

Men need to work within their own sex to detoxify masculinity. It's not the job of women to 'help' men in that regard. Interestingly enough MRAs would have us believe that it's our fault and we should pity those men as it was somehow our fault that we ended up getting killed, raped, or they killed themselves etc... Chapter and verse from the anti-woman, pro-MRA brigade. @tizzybell I'm not one for personal attacks but you are entirely disingenuous.

Also, if your feminism doesn't include trans women, you're no feminist

What? Trans women are men who take female hormones - they're not women. Take the hormones away and the testosterone will take over again. No one can turn from one sex into the other - it's basic biology. But I have no problem with people dressing or presenting themselves as they wish, as long as they don't try infringe upon my rights as a woman.

Yes I have read the article, on arrival with abdo pains the man told the medical staff he had a positive pregnancy test, they retested and scanned to confirm the pregnancy but didn’t treat him as an urgent case? Is that right?

No I meant that I’m sorry she was so disgusted by her perfect body that she felt she had to change sex

Your friend didn't see it as a perfect body, was the complete opposite, and was obviously desperately unhappy in it - so why on earth would you feel sorry for her?
When she now is presumably who she was meant to be all along as she is now comfortable and happy?
That's nothing to be sad about.

Yes I have read the article, on arrival with abdo pains the man told the medical staff he had a positive pregnancy test, they retested and scanned to confirm the pregnancy but didn’t treat him as an urgent case? Is that right?

No, it is not right that a baby should die because its mother got some paperwork changed and the hospital staff were too scared of being sued to treat her. It is wrong, very very wrong.

Ha. Right. Because the years and years of self-hate were probably a walk in the fucking park for her

I didn't say that, though did I? That they were probably a walk in the park? Nothing like did I say that.
I even said must have been desperately unhappy. So why would you be sad for someone who now is happy with who they are?
It wasn't a perfect body for this friend even if you perceived it to be.

@VladmirsPoutine get a grip with your what aboutery

Women being raped is an issue
Men committing suicide is an issue

We can care about more than one thing at a time and it absolutely is the job of women to help men and vice versa! You are extremely divisive in your opinions

Sorry - Roses. You two are like the same person....

Heaven forbid there should be more than one person with a different opinion at the same time!
FFS lol

We can care about more than one thing at a time

Exactly

Ha! I know, we could say the same for all the transphobes on here!

Smellbow, I think you're the hysterical one.

I just don't like to intentionally misgender people that's all

We can care about more than one thing at a time and it absolutely is the job of women to help men and vice versa!We can care about more than one thing at a time and it absolutely is the job of women to help men and vice versa!

Why not pop along to a man's forum and let us know how you got on, making sure you offer to help men?

I think I know what will happen if you did.

Straight to the insults instead of just discussing.
Says a lot.
Carry on by all means.

When she now is presumably who she was meant to be all along as she is now comfortable and happy?

Interesting use of language. 'Meant to be'. Are you coming at this from a religious angle, Roses?

Sorry that was to Smellbow, cross posted.
More than one poster posting the same thing, means you're all the same person though....or something like that

It wasn't a perfect body for this friend even if you perceived it to be.

I've got a question for those of you who believe that people can be born in the wrong body. Do you also think disabled people are born in the wrong body?

Are you coming at this from a religious angle, Roses?

Nope, not particularly religious.

@TheAlternativeTentacle You are totally ignoring the points I'm making

Are you seriously suggesting that I would be shunned by every man in existence if I displayed my compassion for their mental health? I think not. You're being hysterical. And also very misandrist tbh.