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AIBU to be seriously annoyed with DH's parents?

322 replies

SunshineAngel · 10/09/2019 21:29

DH has custody of his 16yo son, and the mother has access at weekends and half of the holidays. They alternate Christmases (and the other gets New Year).

This year, it's our year for Christmas, which we were looking forward to.

DH's mum has decided that herself and her partner are going away for NY this year, on a cruise. Apparently, my partner's son asked them could he go with them (he has no concept of money etc, but then again what 16yo does?) to which they said yes.

We only even got informed about this as soon as we did because they need to pay the balance, and they have asked us for £1,000 for his ticket for the week long cruise before the end of this month, and have asked us to also supply £200 spending money for him at the time.

We are not well off. They know we have £10,000 between us in savings, however the whole house desperately needs to be decorated, including a new bathroom and garden, and I don't want to spend ALL of our savings anyway. £1,200 is a huge amount out of that, yet they have worked it out among themselves that yes, he can go, and yes, we will pay. I am able to save a small amount from my wage each month, but my partner's wage is taken up by his outgoings. He had to pay DS's mother the equivalent of half of the house when they split, and has a huge mortgage as a result, and took a new job with a pay cut last year (much happier, but not as well off) so it's even more of a struggle.

The other issue that my partner raised immediately is that DS's mum should have him for New Year, and there's no way she would be happy when she found out about the holiday, as she's often difficult anyway, and would be well within her right to be with this. They responded saying they had already spoken to her and arranged for DS to spend Christmas with her as a compromise.

So not only are they asking us for a huge amount of money, but they have also decided that my partner actually doesn't get to see his own son for the whole of the Christmas holiday, when he should have been with us. Christmas is a very important time IMO, and I don't understand why they think they can take this away from us.

Just to add insult to injury, I received £3,000 in inheritance recently, and DH's mum has suggested that I can perhaps use that. I don't mean to sound selfish - and I happily give him money here and there if he wants to go to the cinema or out for some food or something - but I'm annoyed enough at the whole situation, and feel that it is even more out of order to suggest that MY inheritance should be used to pay for it. I never EVER pull this card, it's not something I dwell on whatsoever, but I am of the mindset that he's not my son, so how DARE they ask me for such a huge amount, or expect that I should just hand it over without question.

I think it's a shocking amount of money for a week's holiday anyway, but it's not an issue to them.

I just find the whole thing hugely irritating, not to mention worrying. Yes, I've been given this money, but I was planning on paying one of my credit cards off, which would really lighten my load if I could! It's not like I'm rolling in it. I have debts, which I am doing really well with, but I want them to be gone ASAP.

But now we're in the situation of having to try and get this money together (it will leave us short for what we need to do on the house - which DS will benefit from much more than a week's cruise, IMO) before the end of the month. Before I moved in, my partner had struggled with depression and had a difficult relationship with his ex, and as such things really slipped with the house, for years. I've helped him get himself back up on his feet, we're doing really well, and now we're creating a house that's truly ours, together.

I feel DH's mum should have ASKED us first, before telling him he could go with them.. as he's already really excited, and we would feel incredibly bad if it turned out he couldn't go, because of us.

We CAN do it, but AIBU to think that we really shouldn't have to?

OP posts:
MaverlousMo · 11/09/2019 04:39

Let them pay for it, what a cheek! What will it be next time 2k?

If DS wants to go he can contribute by getting a part time job! The grandparents can gift him the outstanding balance.

Pay off the credit card and stick to your decision. They should never have booked or suggested it without consulting you both.

Lentilbug · 11/09/2019 04:56

How rude of them. Say NO. Don't get into it with them because it's just a waste of time. You don't owe them an explanation. It's your money.

lboogy · 11/09/2019 05:05

Outrageous behaviour your in laws. How can they think they have a right to spend your money for you. In future don't be so open about your finances.

PonderingPanda · 11/09/2019 06:33

@SunshineAngel as others have said, your partner doesn't need to show them the thread.

What he needs to do is stand up to them and say no. They won't like it but he can take strength from this thread to know he is right and they are wrong.

Then he needs to contact the boy's mother and tell her that in future any arrangements in regards to their son.... if it affects his contact time....need to be dealt with him directly. What the mother chooses to do with her own contact time is up to her.

PonderingPanda · 11/09/2019 06:36

@SunshineAngel - also.. if you're not going to pay your credit card off move the balance to another interest free credit card

Icantthinkofanynewnames · 11/09/2019 06:47

They sound like an utter nightmare! I can’t even believe that they would tell him he could go before discussing it with you - even if they were paying, that’s still not on! Especially as they negotiated with the boys mum behind your backs and gave up your husbands right to have him this Christmas! I would say the same as everyone else - he can go if they pay since they’ve already selfishly build his hopes up, but if they won’t pay he’s not going, and also this would be the last conversation I ever had with them. I’d cut them out of my life completely, they clearly have no boundaries and no respect for you or your husband and like a PP said, they are bullies.

Icantthinkofanynewnames · 11/09/2019 06:50

Also what lesson will this teach their grandson? Do what you want and bully people and get your own way? Ugh. OP you have to say no and you have to keep us updated! I’m so emotionally invested in this thread, I find their behavior so shocking, I just NEED to know you aren’t going to let them get away with it 😂

AlwaysCheddar · 11/09/2019 06:50

The grandparents are unreasonable and selfish idiots who need a good bollocking. Wtf is wrong with them? Are they stupid? And your partner is an idiot for paying for things they buy. StArt saying no. He’s to grow a pair.

Sceptre86 · 11/09/2019 06:51

The grandparents are Cf. I cannot imagine my mum and dad wanting to take the kids away and not paying for them! I too wouldn't just be able to magic up £1200 and would point blank refuse. Ds needs to be given a reality check and your oh needs to simply say to his parents that ds is his son and he cannot afford it so he will not be going. If they would like to extend some generosity towards their grandson and take him themselves they would be more than welcome.

Also I would be having words with them communicating with dad's mum without your oh's knowledge, unless they regularly have your DS over to stay then all communication should be through DS himself or your oh as the parent.

Next time they buy anything for your DS and try to bill your oh he needs to stand his ground and not pay them for it. If they choose to buy him stuff, great but they should not be reimbursed unless you ask them to buy him certain things. This really needs to come from your oh, he needs to rediscover his backbone and be firm with his parents. It is hard to do so but he is an adult and noone else should be showing him such disregard when it comes to making decisions for his child. Show him the comments on the posts.

Beautiful3 · 11/09/2019 06:58

If they invited him then they pay. I'm shocked they would do this without consulting his parents first. Also to completely rearrange his Christmas! His dad has to say no and stick to it, also contact the ex to say its Christmas with him as planned. The next time his mum buys something for gs and asks for the money start saying no thanks. Because that's not on asking to be repaid for gifts. That's where this 'gifted but you owe me' trip has stemmed from.

FinallyHere · 11/09/2019 07:05

The real boundary your DP needs to enforce is that they do not get to decide things without asking him in advance

every.single.time

Starting with this holiday which is not happening, because he as the parent was not consulted.

He needs to stop with the two hour conversations. State his case, it isn't happening, nothing happens unless I am consulted in advance end of conversation.

It sounds as if he has gone from leaning on them to leaning on you.

Time for him to enforce his boundaries. It's not easy but it needs to happen or who knows what next.

Powerplant · 11/09/2019 07:12

I would keep your financial information private between you and your husband. There was no need to tell MIL about your inheritance

Newbie1981 · 11/09/2019 07:15

Fuck that

pikapikachu · 11/09/2019 07:25

Your h is a grown man. Why is he telling his parents about your inheritance and savings? Why is he on the phone for 2 hours pleading his case? Why would he pay for stuff that his son doesn't need?

Most 16yo have a part-time job here. If dss has to work until December and use all the money he earns to go on the cruise, would he still want to go?

Dss will know that £1200 is a lot as he'll know how many top of the range trainers, computer games, meals at Nando's.... it would buy. The part-time job would help him know how hard it is to earn £1200.

NoSquirrels · 11/09/2019 07:38

Spend £1,200 on counselling for your DP, where a trusted professional can tell him his parents are bullies with no boundaries.

He doesn’t need to justify anything to them with any reason other than “I don’t want to.”

No, Mum & Dad, I don’t want to move closer to you.

No, Mum & Dad, I don’t want to give you money for these clothes you bought before checking with me.

No, I don’t want to pay for DS to go on the cruise with you.

No. No. No.

No reasoning. No justifying.

Just “No” repeated again and again.

MissLadyM · 11/09/2019 07:38

Don't pay! And why do they know all about your finances? Stand firm!

rookiemere · 11/09/2019 07:47

If you had a spare £1200 then you would use that money to have a family holiday with your DSS. Tell th DPs to speak to the DM about NY can't imagine she'll be happy either. DCs from separated families already play enough split gymnastics over the Christmas period without GPs thinking they can get involved.

rookiemere · 11/09/2019 07:50

Or actually rereading - do you in fact ever take DSS on holiday or go on holiday yourselves? Maybe they are making up for a perceived lack - timing and charging still wrong though.

grumiosmum · 11/09/2019 07:51

DS can get a part-time job, and probably save about half the amount needed by Xmas, if he works hard.

The grandparents can pay the other half.

You give DS a bit of spending money as his Xmas gift.

Butterymuffin · 11/09/2019 07:54

Is there a tiny chance this £1k could be subsidising their holiday

This occurred to me too. Especially given what pp have said about the three of them needing more room. Sorry OP but they regard you and your husband as mugs who will put up and shut up when told to hand over money.

VictoriaBun · 11/09/2019 07:55

All this aside ( but agree you shouldn't pay )
With regard to his everyday living, surely for a little independence, he should to thinking of getting an evening/ Saturday job ?

lotusbell · 11/09/2019 07:57

As an aside, why on earth are they aware of your 10k savings and of your inheritance? None if their business, why are you even sharing that info?!

NoLeopard · 11/09/2019 08:05

If he was going to be with his mum for NY why isn't she stumping up at least half? Suggest his cost is split 3 ways between both parents and ILs. If that's not acceptable say no. How can people spend other people's money for them? CFs

NeverSayFreelance · 11/09/2019 08:06

Jesus Christ. Emotional manipulation at its finest. I would have laughed in their faces and said absolutely not, he isn't going. This is ridiculous.

Cheeserton · 11/09/2019 08:06

Fuck no!

No, no, no. That's the only answer they need. Your financial details are NONE of their damn business. Just say no! No arguing, just no. They can't make you pay.

Cheeky bastards.