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AIBU to be seriously annoyed with DH's parents?

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SunshineAngel · 10/09/2019 21:29

DH has custody of his 16yo son, and the mother has access at weekends and half of the holidays. They alternate Christmases (and the other gets New Year).

This year, it's our year for Christmas, which we were looking forward to.

DH's mum has decided that herself and her partner are going away for NY this year, on a cruise. Apparently, my partner's son asked them could he go with them (he has no concept of money etc, but then again what 16yo does?) to which they said yes.

We only even got informed about this as soon as we did because they need to pay the balance, and they have asked us for £1,000 for his ticket for the week long cruise before the end of this month, and have asked us to also supply £200 spending money for him at the time.

We are not well off. They know we have £10,000 between us in savings, however the whole house desperately needs to be decorated, including a new bathroom and garden, and I don't want to spend ALL of our savings anyway. £1,200 is a huge amount out of that, yet they have worked it out among themselves that yes, he can go, and yes, we will pay. I am able to save a small amount from my wage each month, but my partner's wage is taken up by his outgoings. He had to pay DS's mother the equivalent of half of the house when they split, and has a huge mortgage as a result, and took a new job with a pay cut last year (much happier, but not as well off) so it's even more of a struggle.

The other issue that my partner raised immediately is that DS's mum should have him for New Year, and there's no way she would be happy when she found out about the holiday, as she's often difficult anyway, and would be well within her right to be with this. They responded saying they had already spoken to her and arranged for DS to spend Christmas with her as a compromise.

So not only are they asking us for a huge amount of money, but they have also decided that my partner actually doesn't get to see his own son for the whole of the Christmas holiday, when he should have been with us. Christmas is a very important time IMO, and I don't understand why they think they can take this away from us.

Just to add insult to injury, I received £3,000 in inheritance recently, and DH's mum has suggested that I can perhaps use that. I don't mean to sound selfish - and I happily give him money here and there if he wants to go to the cinema or out for some food or something - but I'm annoyed enough at the whole situation, and feel that it is even more out of order to suggest that MY inheritance should be used to pay for it. I never EVER pull this card, it's not something I dwell on whatsoever, but I am of the mindset that he's not my son, so how DARE they ask me for such a huge amount, or expect that I should just hand it over without question.

I think it's a shocking amount of money for a week's holiday anyway, but it's not an issue to them.

I just find the whole thing hugely irritating, not to mention worrying. Yes, I've been given this money, but I was planning on paying one of my credit cards off, which would really lighten my load if I could! It's not like I'm rolling in it. I have debts, which I am doing really well with, but I want them to be gone ASAP.

But now we're in the situation of having to try and get this money together (it will leave us short for what we need to do on the house - which DS will benefit from much more than a week's cruise, IMO) before the end of the month. Before I moved in, my partner had struggled with depression and had a difficult relationship with his ex, and as such things really slipped with the house, for years. I've helped him get himself back up on his feet, we're doing really well, and now we're creating a house that's truly ours, together.

I feel DH's mum should have ASKED us first, before telling him he could go with them.. as he's already really excited, and we would feel incredibly bad if it turned out he couldn't go, because of us.

We CAN do it, but AIBU to think that we really shouldn't have to?

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eladen · 14/09/2019 19:37

But yet I don't see how we can say no if they're thinking about paying.

Quite easily. You say no.

Saying yes is facilitating their coercive and controlling behaviour. Why would you do that?

You both need some assertiveness lessons; neither of you seem to place much value on your own interests or your right to decline things regardless of the argument the other party may put forward.

Besides which, knowing they're doing this to hurt and control you would be a bloody good reason to say no.

Stop letting them mess your life up!

PonderingPanda · 15/09/2019 08:22

@SunshineAngel - you are STILL oversharing too much information with them!! Why didn't you learn from the first time?

Butterymuffin · 15/09/2019 09:26

I don't see how we can say no if they're thinking about paying

Your DH needs to step up once and for all now, and you need to support that. Would you agree to someone taking your DSS to Syria or North Korea because they were paying? Of course not. Payment isn't the issue. As his dad, he needs to make good decisions on behalf of his son and not abdicate those to other people - not even his own parents. If he doesn't do this he is letting his son down. That's how he needs to see it. He must speak to his parents and tell them that the phone calls to DSS stop right now as do all discussions about possible holidays, or there will be no more communication of any kind from you.

SunshineAngel · 15/09/2019 10:37

@PonderingPanda What have I overshared? The fact we're going to NY? DH's son told them that, not me. I'm not in a position for friendly chit chat with them right now.

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CherryPavlova · 15/09/2019 10:47

Poor boy is caught as a pawn in acrimony and nastiness. What does he want to happen? Will he have time off from school?

Why could his father not do a degree in the subsequent fourteen or so years and progress his career to earn a decent salary? Seems a red herring. As he had to give up his degree when his wife left him, one assumes it’s not an intellectual inability?

katewhinesalot · 15/09/2019 11:23

I would be led by your ds by this now. It's not fair he's caught up in it all.

Does he want to go? You could all go somewhere else instead next year. Don't cut off your face to spite your nose. Make it clear that you are not happy with the way things have been arranged but tell him that things are as they are and there is no point wasting the ticket if he would like to go. No pressure whatever his decision.

PonderingPanda · 15/09/2019 11:49

@SunshineAngel - here

I just said because there's a bit of a different being able to save up from our wages for a whole year, as we can actively seek overtime..

Just say - that's not your concern and shut the conversation down. By justifying how you'd afford it next year just gave them another "in" on how they could take DSS this year.

SunshineAngel · 15/09/2019 11:55

@CherryPavlova Because at the time he was doing his degree he has a wife to support him and help him with childcare etc. Suddenly, she walks out on him, leaving him with a baby that needs caring for. Then in the years that follow, a child that needed to be taken to school and picked up, cooked for, looked after.. the only people who could have helped were his parents (as DS's mum didn't see him at all until a couple of years ago) and they were unwilling to help every day. Plus, the degree was ODP meaning it was placement heavy. There's just no way he could have fit it around being a single dad for so long - and that's not even mentioning the financial aspect of not being able to work while studying. He was in the position of having to pay bills/mortgage on his own and was getting zero support from the child's mother - and nobody knew where she'd gone to take her to court at that point! That's not got a great deal to do with this situation, but thought I'd answer your question anyway.

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LovePoppy · 15/09/2019 12:45

If you don’t want to say no if GPpay, I’d just hold to the custody arrangement

He’s not going on your time, but you’ll also not switch with his mother.

But seriously, just say no

PonderingPanda · 15/09/2019 13:32

ODP?

BackforGood · 15/09/2019 17:24

PonderingPanda I think it is Operating Department Practitioner.... NHS position.

Aria999 · 16/09/2019 02:45

Wow they're nasty aren't they. They're only offering to pay to make you look like the bad guys if you say no. I have no idea what I would do. Probably I would cave at this point but that's because I'm a pushover. YWNBU to say no anyway.

Winterlife · 16/09/2019 03:22

If they are willing to provide DS the cruise as a Christmas gift, I would let him go. I’d also save for a separate vacation with him. He will enjoy both, and will have positive memories when he grows up.

Just don’t back down and pay for the cruise.

TiggerOfThigh · 16/09/2019 03:30

Do not part with a penny!! It sends the wrong message to DSS. Trust me, I was that child. Got everything I wanted by playing mum against dad, or grandad intervening (wasn’t a fan of my mum)

Shut that shit down with my kids, united front. This is my decision and nothing is changing it, kinda thing. I think it’s worked lol

Actionhasmagic · 16/09/2019 04:01

This is all levels of wrong but the Christmas thing is over the line

GlasshouseStoneThrower · 16/09/2019 04:05

At 16, your stepson is old enough for you to explain to him why this isn't affordable and you can't pay. Talk to him about it, and take the wind out of your manipulative in-laws' sails.

neverornow · 16/09/2019 14:29

I would be livid! This is all beyond unreasonable.
They offered to bring him on the cruise so they pay for him. End of story.
Your DH's Mum is being extremely unfair and is really bang out of order to suggest you use some of your inheritance to pay for him to go.
Will a 16 y/o even enjoy a cruise? I'd imagine he'll be bored shitless.

ProhibitedRodent · 16/09/2019 18:30

Call them back immediately and inform them that you will NOT be allowing him to go anywhere with them. His 'first time' in New York is reserved for yourself & your husband as his PARENTS!!

WeeDangerousSpike · 16/09/2019 19:58

I'd ask dss what he wants, my bet is a holiday next year where he can see and do fun things in NY, not a fuddy duddy cruise, stuck on a boat where there's likely to be no other kids his age. Watching ballroom dancing and playing bloody Bridge. Or whatever it is his GPs think is a good time. And getting about 5 mins actually in NY, probably on a guided walk about following some twit waving a brolly in the air. Sell it to him right op and he'll be telling his GP he doesn't want to go, and won't that be satisfying Wink

Alternatively, block them - after telling them that their continued unpleasant and unreasonable behaviour leaves you no choice.

PonderingPanda · 16/09/2019 21:10

@BackforGood - l was thinking that too but wanted to check. If it was then due to the nature of that job and the hour's, it would have been impossible to complete the course without 100% 24/7 childcare backup

SummerWhisper · 16/09/2019 22:54

Your husband's parents sound cruel. I don't think they like you or your husband and they absolutely don't respect you. They are divisive and seem intent on punishing you. I am not a relationship expert, but low contact and no information sharing must be the way forward to free you of their dominance. Thank goodness you have your DH's back.

BirdOffTheWire · 17/09/2019 08:44

But yet I don't see how we can say no if they're thinking about paying.

Quite easily. You say no.

Yes, OP. Please, get your DH to "just say no". And to back off from his parents' interference and absolutely refuse to pay them back for the unnecessary "gifts" they give their grandson. If it is a gift, they pay for it; if it isn't a gift, then it is up to your DH to decide what he spends his money on for his own son, not them.

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