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AIBU to be seriously annoyed with DH's parents?

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SunshineAngel · 10/09/2019 21:29

DH has custody of his 16yo son, and the mother has access at weekends and half of the holidays. They alternate Christmases (and the other gets New Year).

This year, it's our year for Christmas, which we were looking forward to.

DH's mum has decided that herself and her partner are going away for NY this year, on a cruise. Apparently, my partner's son asked them could he go with them (he has no concept of money etc, but then again what 16yo does?) to which they said yes.

We only even got informed about this as soon as we did because they need to pay the balance, and they have asked us for £1,000 for his ticket for the week long cruise before the end of this month, and have asked us to also supply £200 spending money for him at the time.

We are not well off. They know we have £10,000 between us in savings, however the whole house desperately needs to be decorated, including a new bathroom and garden, and I don't want to spend ALL of our savings anyway. £1,200 is a huge amount out of that, yet they have worked it out among themselves that yes, he can go, and yes, we will pay. I am able to save a small amount from my wage each month, but my partner's wage is taken up by his outgoings. He had to pay DS's mother the equivalent of half of the house when they split, and has a huge mortgage as a result, and took a new job with a pay cut last year (much happier, but not as well off) so it's even more of a struggle.

The other issue that my partner raised immediately is that DS's mum should have him for New Year, and there's no way she would be happy when she found out about the holiday, as she's often difficult anyway, and would be well within her right to be with this. They responded saying they had already spoken to her and arranged for DS to spend Christmas with her as a compromise.

So not only are they asking us for a huge amount of money, but they have also decided that my partner actually doesn't get to see his own son for the whole of the Christmas holiday, when he should have been with us. Christmas is a very important time IMO, and I don't understand why they think they can take this away from us.

Just to add insult to injury, I received £3,000 in inheritance recently, and DH's mum has suggested that I can perhaps use that. I don't mean to sound selfish - and I happily give him money here and there if he wants to go to the cinema or out for some food or something - but I'm annoyed enough at the whole situation, and feel that it is even more out of order to suggest that MY inheritance should be used to pay for it. I never EVER pull this card, it's not something I dwell on whatsoever, but I am of the mindset that he's not my son, so how DARE they ask me for such a huge amount, or expect that I should just hand it over without question.

I think it's a shocking amount of money for a week's holiday anyway, but it's not an issue to them.

I just find the whole thing hugely irritating, not to mention worrying. Yes, I've been given this money, but I was planning on paying one of my credit cards off, which would really lighten my load if I could! It's not like I'm rolling in it. I have debts, which I am doing really well with, but I want them to be gone ASAP.

But now we're in the situation of having to try and get this money together (it will leave us short for what we need to do on the house - which DS will benefit from much more than a week's cruise, IMO) before the end of the month. Before I moved in, my partner had struggled with depression and had a difficult relationship with his ex, and as such things really slipped with the house, for years. I've helped him get himself back up on his feet, we're doing really well, and now we're creating a house that's truly ours, together.

I feel DH's mum should have ASKED us first, before telling him he could go with them.. as he's already really excited, and we would feel incredibly bad if it turned out he couldn't go, because of us.

We CAN do it, but AIBU to think that we really shouldn't have to?

OP posts:
CrotchetyQuaver · 10/09/2019 23:30

No need for your DP to show his parents this entire thread. No we are not paying a penny since we were not consulted beforehand and we can't afford it repeated over and over again should suffice. And no money to be forthcoming no matter how much they scream and shout. If all else fails, how about you take over the call and speak to them? And tell them to get stuffed
The boy is old enough to understand that money doesn't grow on trees, he might not like it, but that's a useful life lesson in itself.

Whoops75 · 10/09/2019 23:31

I honestly don’t know if anyone else who’s parents would do this.

Ye are adults with a blended family, not children, put them back in their place sharpish.

Derbee · 10/09/2019 23:31

They invite, they pay.

No discussion, certainly not a long one!

As for clothes etc. They want to buy for their GS, they buy, they pay. They should mind their bloody business too. It’s not up to them to swap your Christmas/New Year arrangements. Bloody cheek.

Don’t engage, just say NO. NO. NO.

WhatTiggersDoBest · 10/09/2019 23:33

If your 16 year old wants to go on a cruise for Christmas and doesn't understand £1200 is a lot of cash, he could get a job (Argos is always hiring at this time of year) and save some money. If the grandparents think this is a small thing to ask you to pay, they clearly have enough to pay it themselves.

However, if three people go on a cruise, won't the third person get hit with an under-occupancy charge? Or is he sharing a room with his grandparents the whole time? Either way, this sounds like literally the worst way for DS to go on holiday with his grandparents! How many other 16 year olds will be on the cruise? Surely it'll be mostly older people and the activities will be planned accordingly! I think he's been dazzled with the lure of travelling and hasn't got the life experience to see what a dull trip this will probably be for a boy of his age. The grandparents should know better.

Another thought, are you sure the grandparents have legitimately talked to DS's mother about this and that she's really okay with it, or is it another "assumption" they've made? They might be planning to dump the news on her at the last minute, too, given how secretive they've been with you and your DH.

ColdCottage · 10/09/2019 23:34

They invited him = they pay.

To be honest if it were me I'd say he doesn't go as it means he misses Christmas with you and his dad. Not on.

I think their behaviour is ignorant and thoughtless.

AnotherEmma · 10/09/2019 23:34

Hopefully DH will refuse to pay and so will they, and Xmas/NY arrangements will go back to the originally agreed plan.

But if he does go to his Mum's for Christmas (for the second year in a row) and on holiday with his grandparents at New Year, what happens next year? Will he get Christmas with his dad then? Or will the grandparents want to take him on holiday again?

When does it end?

What if the grandparents want to take him on holiday for his birthday, will they agree it all with his mum and send his dad the bill?

Derbee · 10/09/2019 23:34

I really think there should be a Mumsnet cooperative, where random mumsnetters are put in touch with the CFs in other mumsnetters lives, to tell them they’re being CFs.

ProhibitedRodent · 10/09/2019 23:45

Why haven't you ever confronted them about billing your partner for things they CHOSE to buy?!

ProhibitedRodent · 10/09/2019 23:45

It's absolutely outrageous

Notajogger · 10/09/2019 23:47

This -

He calls them again and says no- no mum and dad it isn’t happening, you do not get to tell me what to spend my money on, you don’t get to re arrange all our Xmas plans and contact time, you don’t get to promise DS something that isn’t realistic and you sure as hell don’t tell me I don’t love him.

Also good point someone made above - why wouldn't they be trying to bill the mother for half of the son's holiday, rather than your DH for the whole thing?

The bit with them charging you for items they buy for your stepson is just ridiculous. It would never occur to me that anyone would ever think this is ok!!

Nanny0gg · 10/09/2019 23:47

NO!

Do not show them this thread. It will not go well.

Make the right decision (he doesn't go unless they pay) and tell them. You don't need MN backing you up. Same for the random shopping they do.

But... he's 16. If he wants to see them at any time, he can and he will. So unless you can talk to him about the situation from your POV I'm not sure how things will go in the future.

ralphfromlordoftheflies · 10/09/2019 23:47

They are absolutely fucking ridiculous and outrageous. This is one of the best examples of taking liberties that I have read for ages. How can they possibly believe that they are being reasonable?

I hope that they do read this thread, so that they can see that everybody thinks that their behaviour is appalling!

tempester28 · 10/09/2019 23:47

You should also not tell them about any inheritance you get in the future - so they can't spend it for you!

Whatsnewpussyhat · 10/09/2019 23:51

Don't show them the bloody thread ffs!

I also want to know why a 16 year old lad wants to go on a cruise with his grandparents Confused

They should never have booked his ticket before speaking to you. They did it on purpose to then throw the emotional blackmail bullshit at you and DP.
Tell them yo fuck right off. Tell the 16 year old that £1200 is far too much money to spent on a weeks holiday for him.

Your inheritance is exactly that. YOURS. No way should it be handed over to someone else's child for a fucking holiday!

BeepBeeeep · 10/09/2019 23:54

It would be a big fat no from me.
As for the you don't love him rubbish, just tell them you don't believe in buying love.
The clothes buying bit, well I wouldn't give them a penny for them. They wanted to buy them so they stump up.
Just tell them no, not happening OP.

FlossieTeacakesFurCoat18 · 10/09/2019 23:55

What they've done - telling a teenager he's going on a holiday and getting him all excited without consulting you, presenting you with the bill and also making your dh and his son miss out on the Christmas together that they've been waiting for - is so utterly bizarre, it's as if they're deliberately sabotaging your family!

Are they annoyed that you've got a bit of money squirrelled away and want you to blow through it? Do they like you being financially dependent on them or something? Or are they bad with money and want everyone else to live hand to mouth the way they do? I'm wracking my brains trying to figure out what their motivation could possibly be, other than insanity!

AnotherEmma · 10/09/2019 23:59

It's obvious to me that they are toxic and dysfunctional, and their motivation is control. Beyond that it's impossible to try and understand people like that because their behaviour is not reasonable or rational.

SummerBreezemakesmefeelfine · 10/09/2019 23:59

Say NO.

Your DSS may appreciate the money much more when he either goes to uni or is struggling to find a home of his own to rent. Either way he would need a rental deposit and this is more important than a holiday you cannot afford.

Hidingtonothing · 11/09/2019 00:00

The grandparents are breathtakingly manipulative and controlling, time to take a stand OP. Would DSS still want to go if he knew all the trouble (both financial and otherwise) it was causing? They would have nowhere to go with this if DSS said he'd changed his mind and didn't want to go. They seem to have deliberately arranged all this (both the cruise with DSS and the Xmas/NY swap with his mum) behind your back so I would go ahead and un-arrange it behind theirs.

wibbletooth · 11/09/2019 00:25

I would turn it around and say that actually they are the ones that don't love him by saying that he could go on the holiday when they weren't prepared to pay for it or do it at a time when he could go (ie on his dad's time when his dad didn't already have plans!) - they are trying to use your /your dh's money to buy their grandson and that you don't want them to take him on the cruise.

How well does your dh get on with his ex - your dss's mum? Could he talk to her and say that he is seriously hacked off with the stunt that his parents and son are pulling - they may well have told her that you agreed to it and were paying for it all and she might have felt that she had no choice but to change as she didin't want to deny her son a nice holiday and she saw it as a convenient way to have her son for christmas again...

It would certainly be interesting to know what she was told about how it was all going to be paid for and who was happy with what arrangements.

You might find that she is hacked off and would be happy to say no too if she discovers the truth from you.

Does you dc have any exams coming up that you can use as an excuse for not going away due to revision needed?

Lockshunkugel · 11/09/2019 00:47

Don’t show them this thread because it won’t help.

Your DH needs to learn to stand up to his horrible parents. You would be better to spend a few hundred pounds for DH to have counselling or assertiveness training than to pay for this cruise. I agree with the pp who suggested reading the ‘toxic parents’ book.

To MrSunshineAngel - you really need to find your spine and stop letting your parents bully you. Tell your parents by phone or text that you are not paying for the cruise and won’t discuss it any further. Can you block their number for a while? I know they are your parents, but they sound like manipulative, nasty, interfering, unpleasant people to me.

PerspicaciaTick · 11/09/2019 01:08

I think it's a shocking amount of money for a week's holiday anyway, but it's not an issue to them.

Of course it isn't an issue for them, they aren't planning to pay the money.

Coyoacan · 11/09/2019 02:44

I honestly cannot imagine a teenager of any sort enjoying a cruise. Isn't that more of a geriatric activity?

Could you soften the blow for him by suggesting you'll pay for him to do something more affordable and more appropriate to his age next summer?

Rachelover60 · 11/09/2019 02:46

Just tell them you cannot afford i And that they shouldn't have agreed to taking their grandson away before discussing it with you. They'll see you're having essential work done to your house and must know that will take most of your cash; house renovation is an expensive business.

Do give him some spends though, the grands shouldn't have to give him holiday money.

I hope it's all resolved amicably.

Durgasarrow · 11/09/2019 03:10

If nothing else, it would be a very useful lesson to the child to learn that you can't invite people to do things with other people's money. What kind of a fucking invitation is that?

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