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AIBU to be seriously annoyed with DH's parents?

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SunshineAngel · 10/09/2019 21:29

DH has custody of his 16yo son, and the mother has access at weekends and half of the holidays. They alternate Christmases (and the other gets New Year).

This year, it's our year for Christmas, which we were looking forward to.

DH's mum has decided that herself and her partner are going away for NY this year, on a cruise. Apparently, my partner's son asked them could he go with them (he has no concept of money etc, but then again what 16yo does?) to which they said yes.

We only even got informed about this as soon as we did because they need to pay the balance, and they have asked us for £1,000 for his ticket for the week long cruise before the end of this month, and have asked us to also supply £200 spending money for him at the time.

We are not well off. They know we have £10,000 between us in savings, however the whole house desperately needs to be decorated, including a new bathroom and garden, and I don't want to spend ALL of our savings anyway. £1,200 is a huge amount out of that, yet they have worked it out among themselves that yes, he can go, and yes, we will pay. I am able to save a small amount from my wage each month, but my partner's wage is taken up by his outgoings. He had to pay DS's mother the equivalent of half of the house when they split, and has a huge mortgage as a result, and took a new job with a pay cut last year (much happier, but not as well off) so it's even more of a struggle.

The other issue that my partner raised immediately is that DS's mum should have him for New Year, and there's no way she would be happy when she found out about the holiday, as she's often difficult anyway, and would be well within her right to be with this. They responded saying they had already spoken to her and arranged for DS to spend Christmas with her as a compromise.

So not only are they asking us for a huge amount of money, but they have also decided that my partner actually doesn't get to see his own son for the whole of the Christmas holiday, when he should have been with us. Christmas is a very important time IMO, and I don't understand why they think they can take this away from us.

Just to add insult to injury, I received £3,000 in inheritance recently, and DH's mum has suggested that I can perhaps use that. I don't mean to sound selfish - and I happily give him money here and there if he wants to go to the cinema or out for some food or something - but I'm annoyed enough at the whole situation, and feel that it is even more out of order to suggest that MY inheritance should be used to pay for it. I never EVER pull this card, it's not something I dwell on whatsoever, but I am of the mindset that he's not my son, so how DARE they ask me for such a huge amount, or expect that I should just hand it over without question.

I think it's a shocking amount of money for a week's holiday anyway, but it's not an issue to them.

I just find the whole thing hugely irritating, not to mention worrying. Yes, I've been given this money, but I was planning on paying one of my credit cards off, which would really lighten my load if I could! It's not like I'm rolling in it. I have debts, which I am doing really well with, but I want them to be gone ASAP.

But now we're in the situation of having to try and get this money together (it will leave us short for what we need to do on the house - which DS will benefit from much more than a week's cruise, IMO) before the end of the month. Before I moved in, my partner had struggled with depression and had a difficult relationship with his ex, and as such things really slipped with the house, for years. I've helped him get himself back up on his feet, we're doing really well, and now we're creating a house that's truly ours, together.

I feel DH's mum should have ASKED us first, before telling him he could go with them.. as he's already really excited, and we would feel incredibly bad if it turned out he couldn't go, because of us.

We CAN do it, but AIBU to think that we really shouldn't have to?

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SunshineAngel · 12/09/2019 12:48

Thank you for your lovely message @Durgasarrow :). One thing that has shocked me since I started looking at prices myself was the sheer cost of what they were actually proposing. The prices for all 3 of us (obviously not including food though, which would have been included on the cruise - but not for the 4 days in NY itself) are only a small amount more than what they wanted off us for one person. Crazy.

They don't like to scrimp when they go on holiday, but what 16yo needs a posh cruise with formal dining, really? It was mad to start with, he was only interested in the 4 days in NY, and we can do a week for not a significant amount more.

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SunshineAngel · 12/09/2019 12:53

@WorriedSENMum Thanks for your message :). Just wanted to say that we're absolutely not putting any pressure on him to spend Christmas with us, but it's not that he doesn't want to, he was just trying to find a solution so he could go on the holiday, as he knew his mum wouldn't be happy not to see him for the whole holiday.

It was the fact that he and DH's parents had planned Christmas arrangements behind our back that was the issue, rather than where he was actually going to be. If they had spoken to us about this whole thing, chances are the outcome would have been very very different, but it was the way they went about it. As I mentioned to another poster, DS doesn't actually like spending time at his mum's at all, as she has other kids, and her partner treats them hugely differently, with obvious favouritism, and it makes him feel like shit - it was only so he could go on the cruise that he arranged to spend Christmas with his mum. If we genuinely believed that's where he wanted to spend his time, of course we wouldn't stop him or guilt trip him, but they don't have the best relationship, largely because of her disappearing act when he was a baby, and she only came back on the scene a few years ago (courts wouldn't let her anywhere near before that for various reasons, but she sorted her life out and got remarried) so bonding was late and awkward.

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Vehivle · 12/09/2019 14:41

Haven't RTFT (sorry). But I'd have said no. Either they pay or he can't go. 16 is old enough to understand that his grandparents were wrong to assume his parent and step parent could afford to pay. They should be paying or shouldn't have offered to let him come and gave him false hope. Hopefully DSS will rightly blame them and they will learn from their poorly thought out, inconsiderate error and ask in advance in the future.

Durgasarrow · 12/09/2019 14:42

I agree that going to NY via cruise is the stupidest way to go! If it's your son's dream to see the city, why does he need to be on a boat for much of the time? There are so many things to see in and around NYC (I live in the area) that are free or cheap and are authentic and amazing that your in-laws would not give a damn about, but your son and you two would probably adore. If you want money saving or any other suggestions, let me know!

Loreleigh · 12/09/2019 17:42

Personally I wouldn't let someone guilt-trip me into paying for a holiday I had not agreed to fund. If they extended the invitation, then they should pay for it - or they have to tell the young man why he can't go and let them apologise for raising his hopes etc - this is on them - do not let them make you out to be the tight villain here! If you had wanted the lad to go you would probably have discussed it with your husband, his son and his mum & her partner before making any commitment (financial or time-wise etc). Don't be bullied and don't spend your savings if you can't afford for someone else to holiday at your expense - good luck

manicmij · 12/09/2019 17:46

They agreed the plan, they have responsibility and should pay. Will a 16 year old actually enjoy a cruise accompanied by GPs? Seems strange that he wants to go.

SunshineAngel · 12/09/2019 17:47

@Loreleigh It's all sorted now :) we sent them a text saying we weren't paying, then they tried to charge us the cancellation fee, which we also said we weren't paying.

So he's not going, Christmas is back to normal, and nobody in the family are speaking to each other ha ha. I'm sure it will be fine though.

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Teaandcake1000 · 12/09/2019 17:48

Sara Clara yes this exactly. What a shameful thing for them to say.

Teaandcake1000 · 12/09/2019 17:50

Well done OP, I hope you DHs son understands. What a horrible thing to have to go through. But again we’ll done

DarlingNikita · 12/09/2019 17:54

I'm glad it's resolved. And who cares if they're sulking?

No way should you have told them about your inheritance. None of their earthly business.

Laurenwils · 12/09/2019 18:03

No you’re not being unreasonable at all, if they are willing to take him then they should be paying for him

jwpetal · 12/09/2019 18:09

this is DH's problem with his mother. Do not use your inheritance for this. Set your boundaries. Using the excuse that a 16 year old has not concept of money is not an excuse. He is old enough. You are not responsible for their agreement. If they paid the money without speaking to you, then it is their responsibility. How much money you have is none of their business and please stand up for yourself.

jwpetal · 12/09/2019 18:10

sorry just saw your message. Well done!

SorryDidISayThatOutLoud · 12/09/2019 18:13

I see he’s not going now which is okay - it’s the right thing to do. I was just popping on to say two things though. We cruise most years and usually kids are 50% off and sometimes free if they share your cabin. This must have been the case otherwise it would have been much more expensive.
The other thing is that if you mention formal dining - it’s probably a Cunard cruise and he would have been bored if so!

Final thing is that they would have got to the port and he wouldn’t have been allowed on without a letter from parents giving the grandparents permission to take him. It’s always enforced. I’ve known others be disappointed from not checking this out. The passport is fine for the flight, a 16 years old can fly on their own. They can’t cruise without a parent or a letter from a parent.

TriciaH87 · 12/09/2019 18:17

You bloody well tell them no. They will keep doing this. It's your Christmas with him they do not get to take that away and they certainly do not get to demand you pay £1200without even asking your consent about if he can go. If they want him to go they pay for it as they said he could without your consent but if that's the case they need to tell his mum she will vw missing out on new year as your not changing when they all agreed to this without asking.

lindyloo57 · 12/09/2019 18:28

Surely if they want to take him on holiday, they should pay, I suppose you could go fifty fifty.

Katr673 · 12/09/2019 18:29

I think you have planned everything for next year really well. I also think you are a great stepmum . Good luck to you all

Motoko · 12/09/2019 18:41

@SorryDidISayThatOutLoud Would a 16 year old be classed as a child? I wouldn't have thought so. Those offers tend to have age restrictions.

BoomBoomsCousin · 12/09/2019 18:49

You can get flights and 6/7 nights accommodation for 3 adults in NY over Christmas/New Year for a bit more than £1k? Don’t suppose you could share where you found a deal like that could you?

FamilyOfAliens · 12/09/2019 18:54

boomboom

You almost sound like you don’t believe the OP ...

Loreleigh · 12/09/2019 18:57

@SunshineAngel glad you have got things sorted and that Christmas is back to normal - I'd think things will sort themselves out in time regarding the family being on speaking terms - when the in-laws learn not to be presumptuous, not to try going over your heads with no discussion, and not to make promises to their grandson. It might have been a bit of an emotional rollercoaster for the young man (as well as you and your husband) but it will be a big life lesson and I'm sure he knows he is loved, his company is welcome at yours and you do want to spend time/Xmas with him - at 16 he is a young man about to embark on adult life and not a child after all - all the best to you & yours and have a doubly-good Christmas

mankyfourthtoe · 12/09/2019 18:59

Well done. There does seem to be a weird dynamic where they still feel like they're in charge.
Definitely stop that situation where they buy and want the money back. Say we've just bought (that item) please get a refund as we can't afford two.

ozymandiusking · 12/09/2019 19:08

No, is a complete sentence!

Eva2020 · 12/09/2019 19:11

Their will, their bill !!
No consultation with you, they have set you up to be the baddies.
Dont do it.....they need to pay.

By all means give him some spending money as a Christmas gift no more.

MrsBadcrumble123 · 12/09/2019 19:24

Tell them your money is already allocated for bills, if they want to take him they should pay. Leave DH to handle to fall out it’s not your problem