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AIBU to be seriously annoyed with DH's parents?

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SunshineAngel · 10/09/2019 21:29

DH has custody of his 16yo son, and the mother has access at weekends and half of the holidays. They alternate Christmases (and the other gets New Year).

This year, it's our year for Christmas, which we were looking forward to.

DH's mum has decided that herself and her partner are going away for NY this year, on a cruise. Apparently, my partner's son asked them could he go with them (he has no concept of money etc, but then again what 16yo does?) to which they said yes.

We only even got informed about this as soon as we did because they need to pay the balance, and they have asked us for £1,000 for his ticket for the week long cruise before the end of this month, and have asked us to also supply £200 spending money for him at the time.

We are not well off. They know we have £10,000 between us in savings, however the whole house desperately needs to be decorated, including a new bathroom and garden, and I don't want to spend ALL of our savings anyway. £1,200 is a huge amount out of that, yet they have worked it out among themselves that yes, he can go, and yes, we will pay. I am able to save a small amount from my wage each month, but my partner's wage is taken up by his outgoings. He had to pay DS's mother the equivalent of half of the house when they split, and has a huge mortgage as a result, and took a new job with a pay cut last year (much happier, but not as well off) so it's even more of a struggle.

The other issue that my partner raised immediately is that DS's mum should have him for New Year, and there's no way she would be happy when she found out about the holiday, as she's often difficult anyway, and would be well within her right to be with this. They responded saying they had already spoken to her and arranged for DS to spend Christmas with her as a compromise.

So not only are they asking us for a huge amount of money, but they have also decided that my partner actually doesn't get to see his own son for the whole of the Christmas holiday, when he should have been with us. Christmas is a very important time IMO, and I don't understand why they think they can take this away from us.

Just to add insult to injury, I received £3,000 in inheritance recently, and DH's mum has suggested that I can perhaps use that. I don't mean to sound selfish - and I happily give him money here and there if he wants to go to the cinema or out for some food or something - but I'm annoyed enough at the whole situation, and feel that it is even more out of order to suggest that MY inheritance should be used to pay for it. I never EVER pull this card, it's not something I dwell on whatsoever, but I am of the mindset that he's not my son, so how DARE they ask me for such a huge amount, or expect that I should just hand it over without question.

I think it's a shocking amount of money for a week's holiday anyway, but it's not an issue to them.

I just find the whole thing hugely irritating, not to mention worrying. Yes, I've been given this money, but I was planning on paying one of my credit cards off, which would really lighten my load if I could! It's not like I'm rolling in it. I have debts, which I am doing really well with, but I want them to be gone ASAP.

But now we're in the situation of having to try and get this money together (it will leave us short for what we need to do on the house - which DS will benefit from much more than a week's cruise, IMO) before the end of the month. Before I moved in, my partner had struggled with depression and had a difficult relationship with his ex, and as such things really slipped with the house, for years. I've helped him get himself back up on his feet, we're doing really well, and now we're creating a house that's truly ours, together.

I feel DH's mum should have ASKED us first, before telling him he could go with them.. as he's already really excited, and we would feel incredibly bad if it turned out he couldn't go, because of us.

We CAN do it, but AIBU to think that we really shouldn't have to?

OP posts:
Tistheseason17 · 12/09/2019 19:42

Good deciions, OP. You'll be fine! And make sure you don't pay for any more unwanted "Gifts"!!!

Lulu49 · 12/09/2019 19:42

Haven’t even read your whole post, Just got to say, there’s not a snowflake in hells chance I would pay for him to go! If they want to take him then they have to pay. I would however give him the £200 spending money

Lulu49 · 12/09/2019 19:47

Just say your not paying, don’t get into any conversation about it! Tell your stepson your sorry but you can’t afford it especially at such short notice and leave it at that. He’s 16 not 5, he can understand or will do eventually

momtoboys · 12/09/2019 19:51

Well done!

GoneToTheDock · 12/09/2019 19:59

there is a cancellation fee of £200 for cancelling his flight and cabin, which WE WILL HAVE TO PAY (!!!!) as it's us who are being awkward!

Fucking hell!!!

PurpleCrazyHorse · 12/09/2019 20:07

Great news OP and I'm very jealous of your excellent compromise for next year. A great learning opportunity for your DS too and this way he gets longer in NY and no doubt some input into the planning.

TellMeWhoTheVilliansAre · 12/09/2019 20:19

200 cancellation fee?! So what happens if you don't pay it, nor do you pay for the ticket?!

Obviously the 200 is the loss to them for booking (and paying) for his ticket. This might turn out to be a good lesson for everyone. If they're out of pocket because you refuse to give them any money, it might make them think twice about buying stuff for him and looking for the money back off your husband.

Wait for them to now say they'll bring him and pay for him.....

threatmatrix · 12/09/2019 20:52

If they want to take him then they should pay. Of course you would give him a bit of spending money but that’s it. Why do the know how much savings you have??

masterchef98 · 12/09/2019 20:59

I haven't read everything but skimmed for ops posts which was lucky as my advice is redundant now, however i will say what i was going to ... I think the whole paying thing is a red herring, the simple fact is neither of the parents were consulted about the change of plans so it was a no-go from the start. Whatever the legal ins and outs of being 16 (and I dont know them) he can only do what he wants if he can afford it. Really glad you've had a good talk, found out what was drawing him to it and made your own plan for how to get there which was exactly what I was going to suggest. I have no advice regarding awkwardness with in laws but I felt the important thing was talking to dss which has been done successfully. Merry christmas!

Celestine70 · 12/09/2019 21:13

They agreed to take him they should pay. You should get the next two christmases.

Lovely13 · 12/09/2019 22:17

If buying him a cruise means you love him enough, that’s just so weird. They sound manipulative. Just say you can’t afford. If he kicks off, tell him to get a job and pay for that cruise. He’s old enough.

SorryDidISayThatOutLoud · 12/09/2019 22:18

SorryDidISayThatOutLoud Would a 16 year old be classed as a child? I wouldn't have thought so. Those offers tend to have age restrictions.
Yes 16 is a child on cruises and requires written permission from a parent up to the age of 18 for cruises to USA. Passport isn't enough.

Idontlikecheesecake · 12/09/2019 22:25

I’ve read your posts OP and I know you’ve told them you’re refusing to pay and you’re planning a trip yourselves next year sometime. But please keep us updated about how it goes with the inlaws. I was furious for you when I was reading what had happened and would like to know how it pans out. Good on your DH for standing up for himself

billy1966 · 12/09/2019 22:39

So they mess up and you pay for it.

There is no end to the CF. It sounds like standing up to them has been a long time coming.

Well done👍

nuxe1984 · 12/09/2019 23:08

Don't pay. If his GP wants to take him on holiday then it's her decision so she pays.

But I would point out that as you legally have him for this Christmas then she should have asked you rather than his mother if you were happy with changing arrangements.

Teacher22 · 13/09/2019 05:11

Explain to your son that he is not going not because you wouldn't pay the cruise fare but because the in laws refused to pay. He needs to know that you could not afford the huge amount of ticket money with Christmas and essential house maintenance to pay for as well.

What sixteen year old wants to go away with aged rellies anyway?

Beautiful3 · 13/09/2019 07:04

Well done op for standing your ground.

Theflying19 · 13/09/2019 07:09

What child gets to go on a seriously expensive holiday just because they want to? It's outrageous. He shouldn't have thought he'd be able to. Without asking your permission. You are not a bnak. It's your job to raise him to be a reasonable human being and not just 'make him happy'. Sounds like your other half's parents sont have appropriate boundaries and are manipulative. I would put my foot down and say no. They were in the wrong. He shouldn't even go on the holiday!

Shelby2010 · 13/09/2019 07:28

Well done on sorting out the GPS. It’s not what you’ve asked about, but I hope your money is safe in your arrangements with DP. It sounds like you’re putting all your money into a house which is his, not yours. And which will go to DS if he dies. Just remember to make sure your investment is protected if it all goes wrong!

Ohfuckinghellwhatnow · 13/09/2019 08:50

Is DS mother paying half too? They had no right to agree to anything without checking with you first, and should absolutely pay for him in that case. Wow.... 😳

SafferUpNorth · 13/09/2019 10:56

OP, why not gently convince your stepson that there's no way he wants to go on that cruise - being stuck on a ship for days playing cards with a bunch of oldies will be boring as hell for a 16-yea-old. With that price tag, there are unlikely to be loads of families with other teenagers on board. Cruises are for retired people.... I'm stereotyping here but you need to sell it to him Wink

DuckbilledSplatterPuff · 13/09/2019 10:57

@SunshineAngel glad you've sorted it all out and that you had a good chat with DS who understands. He sounds like a nice boy. Reading through the thread it sounds like an excellent opportunity to put new rules in place with the GPs. As other pps have said they know far too much about your finances and think they can dictate how you spend your money. This is a chance to say without rancour when they next infringe that you have carefully considered financial plans and will be sticking to them. Your inheritance is absolutely your business and none of theirs whatsoever. Don't explain. Don't justify, just say politely. Its all taken care of and proceeding as planned and change the subject. You don't have to "fess" up to every question asked and can say "I don't want to discuss our finances thankyou." and change the subject.
Texting/emailing was the right way to go on this one as your DH can get his message across without them chipping in with unkind comments.
Also. Please don't pay the £200 fine for being "awkward" that is 200 lessons to them on why they shouldn't make arrangements behind your back which they then want you to pay for. Similarly, your 16 year old knows what clothes etc he wants and can ask you directly. If they want to buy him something, its not a gift from them unless they pay for it. Otherwise its an unplanned purchase for you that disrupts your budget for that month.
Comments about don't you love him enough to spend your savings on him are outrageous and should be turned back on them.. how much do they love their son? Enough not to make financial plans for his money behind his back and then use emotional blackmail on him. ( You probably can't say this in RL, but it should stiffen your resolve)
Its good that you have made firm plans for what you want to do and this means there's no space for other people's plans to pop up.
Ultimately, its a choice between standing up to them and letting them take offence or just putting up with it. I think that is worth a little bit of "offence" for you to both plan your lives as parents and adults without outside interference. I think it will keep the peace and maintain relationships more effectively in the long run, with less of these kind of blow ups. Well done on standing up for yourselves.

gymraes · 13/09/2019 14:24

Hope it's all sorted. They had an f'ing cheek. Stand by your guns. How dare they...Poor boy tho.(Not down to you, obv)

EllenMP · 13/09/2019 19:01

Absolutely not. They pay for their holiday with him and you and your husband pay for your holidays with him. You are not paying for him to go on a family trip with someone else. Your MIL can contribute if she wishes, but it's not your problem or your husband's.

cherish123 · 13/09/2019 20:03

I think the key issue is this is his mother's time with him. Your DH is right. It's up to her. She might want to spend NY with him, esp as she won't see him at Christmas.

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