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To cancelled DD7’s trip to build a bear with grandparents

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SpikyButt · 07/09/2019 22:18

Sorry, long and rambly.

My DD2 is turning 7 in a few weeks.

She is extremely challenging at the moment.
Refusing to do as asked, from getting up in the morning, to getting dressed, brushing teeth, getting out of the house without a strop. She attacks her sister, who isn’t blameless either, we’ve had problems with her hurting other kids at school, her behaviour at school isn’t terrible but does ‘require improvement’. She gets angry and shouts a lot when asked to do things, just getting her to write a few sentences for her homework today was a couple of hours of screaming and crying despite my staying completely calm (which I often fail at). But the main issue concerning this AIBU is her constant destroying of toys and defacing other people’s property.

She cuts all the hair off her dolls, draws all over dolls, teddies, furniture in her room, pulls arms off dolls Etc. She likes to make potions and so several times I’ve caught her having taken toiletries from the bathroom and made a god awful mess in her bed. She draws on her sheets, her body, she once trimmed her eyelashes with scissors.

I know, I should keep everything out of her reach but she s crafty and finds and hides things. And do I really have to lock up all my toiletries from a nearly 7 year old?!

Anyway, my parents took my older to daughter to the Build a Bear Workshop for her 7th birthday, spent about £150 on her, then extra in the following weeks. They want to do the same for DD2.

We have talked about it a few times over the last few months and I had made it clear that I didn’t think it was a good idea, as she destroys or defaces pretty much ALL of her toys, plus she refuses to tidy up her toys so I periodically do a sweep and remove things. She doesn’t understand the value of things, or possible just doesn’t give a damn, isn’t it sending the wrong message?
Though I guess us buying her birthday presents is the same?

Yesterday my mum asked when would be a good time to take her to Build a Bear.
I said I thought we’d decided that wasn’t a good idea while she’s still destroying everything.
She said, “oh I know, but it’s not fair, she knows now”
So why did you say anything, then?! I hadn’t mentioned it at all to her.

I’m really quite annoyed, why does it have to be THIS birthday, why not next birthday when she’s hopefully better? DD2 has NO IDEA when her sister went, she didn’t even care much about the damn bear til my mum told her recently.
I realise I’m probably being petty and controlling but it annoys me that they just decided amongst themselves after we spoke about it.

This evening, after a long battle trying to get her to brush her teeth and stop annoying her sister, I came so close to threatening to cancel Build a Bear.

That’s another thing that my mum does, though.

She has before threatened DD with removing of outings that have nothing at all to do with her, and that she has no right to interfere with, such as a Rainbow’s trip and a Birthday party.
If I threaten something, I always follow through, these were things she had no control over and I would be left to carry out the ‘punishment’ on her behalf, making me the bad guy, again, because she used that to try to control her.

So, while I feel that’d be a horrible thing to do, my Mum threatens her with things she has no business with so why shouldn’t I? Especially after I told her no in the first bloody place?!

Meh. I can see I’m being petty, and it’s very unlikely I would cancel the trip unless DD2 did something especially bad, I’m just annoyed, mostly at my mother who I apparently have unresolved issues with that I never seem to be able to place.

But who is BU here?
Her for trying to do something nice for her granddaughter despite me telling her to wait a year,
Or me for being annoyed and potentially cancelling it if DD keeps being imbloodypossible?

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paradisedreamer · 07/09/2019 22:21

I would cancel the trip and be firm with your parents. If they don't like tough.

saraclara · 07/09/2019 22:23

Honestly? The trip sounds the least of your problems. Though I'd be really annoyed with your MIL if she deals out threats that she doesn't have to deliver on.

Have you sought any help for your daughter, or advice in managing her?

tallglassof · 07/09/2019 22:24

your poor daughter sounds so unhappy. Very mean to cancel her birthday present. There is way more to your daughter's behaviour, she is 7 for christ's sake she is acting out because she is a very unhappy child. please seek counselling for her and the family. She is being treated like the black sheep it seems and is acting out because maybe thats the only time you actually focus on her, to tell her off? something is not right.

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BarbariansMum · 07/09/2019 22:25

You've warned your mum, now I'd let her get on with it. If the money turns out to be wasted, it's her choice.

Wrt to your dd, have you tried different toys ? Ones that you can use to experiment or build things or creative things that you can put together as you like? If she likes making potions, what about stuff to make potions with? She might even like to help select it.

SulaHula · 07/09/2019 22:26

I think you've got bigger problems than whether or not she builds this bear. At 7 that's all fairly alarming behaviour and something is seriously wrong here. I think you might be beyond sanctions. Have you looked a a child psychologist to assess her? She sounds desperately unhappy or there's some SEN going on that hasn't been diagnosed. Now that she knows about it I would let her go. She seems like a troubled kid that needs a whole new approach.

HotPenguin · 07/09/2019 22:28

I don't think cancelling the trip is going to help. I think you should be speaking to your GP or the school SENCO about your daughter's behaviour as there could be an underlying issue.

Annoying that your Mum is interfering regarding trips etc but that is a separate issue, I don't think you should cancel your daughter's trip to get back at your mum.

ImNotYourGranny · 07/09/2019 22:30

Has she been assessed for any underlying issues? The destruction, the writing everywhere, the meltdowns over having to do the simplest of tasks sound like my DD at that. She was a bloody nightmare. At 15 she was diagnosed with autism.

MuddlingMackem · 07/09/2019 22:31

That kind of behaviour sounds awful, but is the destruction some kind of external self-harm. I may be well off here, but does she have some sort of anxiety issue?

If I were you I think I'd make an appointment with the GP and see if you can get a referral to appropriate support for her. Or if you can afford a private counsellor try that. If it isn't a phase it's only going to get harder to deal with as she gets bigger.

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Poochandmutt · 07/09/2019 22:33

The build a bear is the least of your problems,your child needs some help.get referred to camhs ,this is not normal behaviour something is wrong

Fairylea · 07/09/2019 22:33

You need to get help for your child. Google autism and pda.

LynetteScavo · 07/09/2019 22:35

I don't think cancelling build a Bear will make any difference to your DDs behaviour. She has issues which need dealing with. Why is she so destructive?

inwood · 07/09/2019 22:35

I wouldn't cancel the BaB trip, I'd be pushing to her her assessed.

negomi90 · 07/09/2019 22:35

Your mum is a separate issue which needs sorting separately. If your dd knows about it, don't put her in the middle.
But with a kid acting out, you need to be focusing on positive things and relationship building. Taking things away (especially a birthday treat) means you sink to the bottom.
Something is wrong - either happening to her or with her ability to control herself. That's the issue. Its not her being naughty. You need to be working with her on managing things instead of being punitive (get help to this if you need it).
And while you go through this hell you need to find positive things. Let her go to build a bear or better yet join in on the trip and have a super special day full of goodness and memories. If she destroys the bear later, that's hers to destroy. You've still had the nice day.

InterestingView · 07/09/2019 22:36

I feel so sad for your daughter there is definitely something on way more important than build a bear and your relationship with your own mother.

Bringonspring · 07/09/2019 22:36

I agree with people, the outing is the least of your concerns. How are you getting support for your daughter?

InterestingView · 07/09/2019 22:36

*going on

PurpleFlower1983 · 07/09/2019 22:36

I would make an appointment with your GP, your daughter’s behaviour is alarming and it sounds like she would benefit from some help from a child psychologist.

UpToonGirl · 07/09/2019 22:37

Honestly I would let your mum take her (although I totally get where you're coming from) and focus more on dealing with her behaviour.

I don't mean to sound like I don't think you are but I think you're wasting your energy and focus on battling with your mum.

What do school say, do they feel her behaviour warrants any investigation? It sounds very tough and like you all could do with some support.

Xmasbaby11 · 07/09/2019 22:38

Her behaviour sounds unusual and quite worrying for a 6yo. As pp says, she sounds very unhappy and I'd want to look at why.

I have a 7yo dd and she has a lot of trouble managing her emotions. Some similar behaviour to your dd in that she gets angry and it's hard to get her to do stuff. She has ASD. She needs a lot of patience, rules and downtime because school / life can be stressful for her.

Sorry if you believe she's just being naughty. I can't help seeing parallels because of my daughter's ASD and it is not always diagnosed in girls. But I would want to speak to someone as she sounds so unhappy. I would allow the build a bear to go ahead as planned.

Templetonstunafish · 07/09/2019 22:41

You need to get help for her. This obviously goes beyond naughtiness.

SunshineAngel · 07/09/2019 22:41

Firstly, with children with behavioural issues, it's vital everyone is on the same page re: management and punishments. Your mum shouldn't be threatening your daughter with punishments you haven't approved.

Secondly though, to me, your daughter's behaviour sounds really worrying. Have you sought help for her? Seeing the GP would be a great place to start. There is a chance she may either need counselling, or treatment for an undiagnosed condition (autism etc).

Either way, it sounds more than a phrase, and certainly not something a 7yo should be going through.

Also, consider getting counselling and support yourself if you struggle to keep your cool. It's so incredibly difficult, but anger never beats anger, it only exacerbates the issue.

I wish you the absolute best of luck, and hope that your daughter gets the help that she needs.

FWIW, I wouldn't even think about buying any toys that cost as much as Build a Bear if she's likely to just destroy it.

leghairdontcare · 07/09/2019 22:43

Your 7 year old is displaying some very worrying behaviours and you want to cancel her birthday trip, not because of her behaviour per se but because you want to get one over on your mother. It all sounds really unhealthy.

Also I would say, some of the things you've listed don't sound as and as the other so I'd try and be clear on what your non-negotiables are. Obviously she can't be violent and she has to do homework/clean teeth etc. But the doll stuff and the potion making etc, there will be a way to direct that so she can enjoy it and you don't stress about it. Buy a bunch of dolls from the charity shop, let her cut their hair or draw on them and get whatever satisfaction she's getting from that in a safe, low risk environment.

ChicCroissant · 07/09/2019 22:44

I think YABU to stop a trip with someone else tbh OP - if it was a trip you'd arranged then I could see the point. That equally applies to your mum though - did you really cancel activities because your mother said so?! That's not on either!

Has the school made any suggestions to help her there?