Child maintenance from rich ex boyfriend

[Hanny3]

I recently found out I'm three months pregnant. I'm no longer together with the father. I will be raising the child by myself as the father doesn't won't anything to do with the child.

He has said he will pay child maintenance. He's a very rich guy and comes from a very rich family. He said to me when where together that he earned £15,000 per month after tax (by working for his dad) and that he had other incomes from his investments. He also has a large personal fortune.

He has said he will pay £1,273 a month in child maintenance. He claims that is the maximum he has to pay according to law.

I'm a student and don't have much money. I have asked if he would be willing to pay more the first two years so I can really focus on finishing my studies. He said no.

My mom and my friends are telling my if I take it to court I would get more per month, and are encouraging me to do so. My ex on the other hand says I would get less if I take it to court.

So I was wondering if anyone knows if I would get more per month if I took it to court? And I'm I totally unreasonable if I think he should pay more the first two years while I'm a student?

I'm interested to know why the very few people on 16 pages' worth of posts think that this isn't a Schedule 1 Children's Act situation? It seems on bare facts to be precisely the type of situation it's intended to cover - where it is not in the child's interest for there to be such a substantial disparity in parental incomes. I'm aware of a number of instances where housing awards have been made for purchase of suitable London property while child is dependent (though mostly on substantially higher earnings than this guy's c.£300k). A one off payment awarded under Sch 1 would mean that the child is at least housed if the grandfather decides to sack his son for financial expediency eg (she'll still have to pay for upkeep of said property though and not be able to sell it)

Not an established lifestyle for the child? Child not loosing their lifestyle as a result of a relationship split.
No other children for comparison ie if he had the children who went to independent school, skiing 3 x a year etc there would be a baseline to agree this child is missing out.
£330,000 salary would not fund the purchase of a 2nd home in London. Regardless of any deposit a £1.000,000 mortgage is £5k a month.
£330,000 from employment is well off- not very rich, certainly not in the area of affording a 1 off payment to buy a house (well maybe a terrace in Blackburn)

We don't know anything about his family circumstances- married? other children? dependent relatives?

Although the OP uses the term very rich- £330k salary is not very rich. She suggests that he has additional assets which may change the situation.

That’s true @candylebonbon
I read a comment up thread where someone mentioned we had a cms system that adequately reflected the work done by the parent doing the caring. And I had to look for the bit where the poster said they lived in some Nordic utopia or something . But I think they were talking about THIS COUNTRY

where it is not in the child's interest for there to be such a substantial disparity in parental incomes

Plus- the child will not know their father and so will not be aware of any disparity.

here I am, a full time place for under 1 is unlikely to be cheaper than £1.8K / month.

However, op is studying. She will get assistance with that too.

I am not saying he should be offering a minimum. But the figure you quote, doesnt really impact the OP.

And as this man works for his dad, he may decide to reduce his hours and take some of that burden (even if it's just to reduce maintenance like some men do).

This is the problem with OP taking him to court he has so many outs. It's not fair or right. But he could reduce his hours, or decide he wants to be a 50:50 dad. Say he has reduced hours so he can look after his child, wants to support op going to uni and have a good relationship with the child.

It might be all bollocks, but he could say it and OP coild be left in the shit.

Unfortunately, in situations like these the one with money has the power.

I mean if OP is a poor student, how is she even going to be able to afford to take him to court

But no one should expect someone else to lose out financially because you can't be arsed looking after your child
Shes not losing out financially.

And maybe its not because he "cant be arsed" youre just speculating.

Atilla- people are discouraging court because of

1. Cost - can op involve legal fees? Could the legal fees outweigh any extra awarded?
2. Risk- there's a chance op could lose the case and be stuck with big fat legal fees
3. Time delay - presumably OP can't claim until child is born and it could me months before court. The Dad doesn't have to worry about legal fees so could drag things out until she graduated?

Most importantly op might have choices that can reduce costs like transferring unis. It's last minute but term hasn't started at most unis.

Has op looked into the cost of childcare and any cost reduction from UC? Is she sure that she needs to move house she could share a room with baby until June 2021 when she graduates?

Although the OP uses the term very rich- £330k salary is not very rich
Fgs, what is rich then?!

Struggling to believe this scenario. The OP is 3 months pregnant, has been told verbally she will receive the specific sum of £1273. The so called rich boyfriend has 6 months to get his finances in order, especially given he apparently works for his father. As a few others have said, what would you do if the father of your child wasn't well off? It all seems to be about you, what your mother and friends think. He won't pay to support you, that's for sure.

Genderfree
Well they don't get any say it's not like he is refusing to give her any maintenance either !
I didn't want a kid but I have got some bird pregnant I better give her maintenance
And she's pissed because he is so rich so she wants more money so she can go to uni also if she wanted to be a mum and go to uni she should of thought about that before falling pregnant
I think men need to have some one in their corner on here sometimes

@jesse70 good for you. You can be in the man corner

@AE18 you sound like you are coming from an MRA perspective.

He had a choice. The choice not to impregnate someone. He could have not had sex, he could have had a vasectomy, he could have at the very least doubled up on contraception. As women shouldn't for their own sake rely on men for income, men should not rely on women to ensure they remain childless. I know it is not entirely the case in this post but men who refuse to practically or financially support their children should be forced to do unpaid labour. If the state is supporting that child in anyway the absent parent should reimburse the state with work. Might get them to take a bit more responsibility for where their sperm ends up.

1. a man no longer in a Relationship with the prospective mother who expressly says he does not want a child or to be involved in its life does not owe the mother 20 years of maintenance and sharing of his income and lifestyle beyond what he was already offered.
2. if it was the other way round there is no way people here would say a woman owed a man fuller scale maintenance for 20 years
3. he may choose in the future to get married and have children and that family should not be overly disadvantaged by his previous commitments.
4. everyone is worse off when they have children and have to make adjustments in their standard of living. Many people have to defer degrees and training plans and take on additional costs and OP will have to adjust too. That is why many of us wait and save before starting a family. He can't be expected to foot the whole bill.

Let's face it.. OP just hasn't given enough information about the circumstances before.
Just a controversial post.. replying to minimal posts with more controversial replies...
Has thrown the bait and is just watching...

An application under the Children’s Act would take into account the fathers income so the fact the child wouldn’t know about the disparity is totally irrelevant.

I believe an Order for costs can be made to the mother if it is considered it’s in the best interest of the child (if I remember correctly Schedule 1).

Trust me Jesse with the amount of men NOT PAYING maintenance and manipulating their accounts avoid paying even though they earn more than enough, I don't think men need any more support from the system than they are currently getting. Women are routinely fucked over financially. Often for life. Give your head a bloody wobble!

you sound like you are coming from an MRA perspective yaaaaaaawn

Where does op say he isnt going to have anything to with the child?

The fact is that if she choose to have this child, she has to accept it's going to be hard to study. That's life.

She wants more to support her while she is student. She may win if she goes to court.

She may lose out big time.

Or he may give her the money he offered, plus be very involved. No one knows.

I know it is notentirelythe case in this post but men who refuse to practically or financially support their children should be forced to do unpaid labour. If the state is supporting that child in anyway the absent parent should reimburse the state with work. Might get them to take a bit more responsibility for where their sperm ends up 😂😂 good luck with that.

I should have added that I’m studying in London and need to get my own place

Can you study somewhere else where it's cheaper? Or defer your studies till your kid goes to school and get a job in the meantime? (My cousin did that, worked out quite well). Or move back home till your kid goes to school? I think you have to stop thinking innproblems (I want to study and further myself and London is expensive) and start thinking in solutions (What can I do the next ten years to complete my study and take care of my child).

And if he decides to go for 50:50 op would get naff all anyway. But would be able to continue her studies.

ilike yeah somehow i dont think shed be happy with that!

Not according to the Children’s Act Bouledeneige (as far as child maintenance is concerned).

However it’s a difficult course of action to pursue.

You sound so grabby. Your only thinking about your own needs and not your child’s.

This particular post he should not be getting any grief
I think alot of people on here need to give their heads a wobble especially the OP
Mine however is fine thanks and I will raise my daughter to be more sensible when it comes to contraception and men
Also I know there's alot of wastes of space men but these women still get pregnant

Ilikethisone

• “And if he decides to go for 50:50 op would get naff all anyway. But would be able to continue her studies”

The very first post by the OP states he doesn’t anything to do with the child.