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Child maintenance from rich ex boyfriend

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Hanny3 · 05/09/2019 10:52

I recently found out I'm three months pregnant. I'm no longer together with the father. I will be raising the child by myself as the father doesn't won't anything to do with the child.

He has said he will pay child maintenance. He's a very rich guy and comes from a very rich family. He said to me when where together that he earned £15,000 per month after tax (by working for his dad) and that he had other incomes from his investments. He also has a large personal fortune.

He has said he will pay £1,273 a month in child maintenance. He claims that is the maximum he has to pay according to law.

I'm a student and don't have much money. I have asked if he would be willing to pay more the first two years so I can really focus on finishing my studies. He said no.

My mom and my friends are telling my if I take it to court I would get more per month, and are encouraging me to do so. My ex on the other hand says I would get less if I take it to court.

So I was wondering if anyone knows if I would get more per month if I took it to court? And I'm I totally unreasonable if I think he should pay more the first two years while I'm a student?

OP posts:
Rivkka · 05/09/2019 14:04

My sister had to give up studying when she got pregnant and get a job.

She went back to it when her DD was older. You might need to do the same.

IrmaFayLear · 05/09/2019 14:04

Most people don’t have any way of getting money without working for it. But I am in this situation where it’s possible that the law says I’m entitled to more money from my ex

So this was a get rich quick scheme? I did read that premiership footballers/pop stars etc wear practically 3 condoms to prevent this happening. Some get caught out: Boris Becker in the broom cupboard and Jude Law with a one night stand (to whom he gave the wrong mobile number but of course she tracked him down easily).

Pcosmama · 05/09/2019 14:05

Surely you will have maintainence loans from student finance? On top of this you are entitled to childcare allowance and a maternity grant. I think what he's offering is more than reasonable and you will easily manage as many many people manage on far far less. He is only paying for the child to have food, clothes and adequate care. Everything else is on you.

hsegfiugseskufh · 05/09/2019 14:05

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/11360819/Average-cost-of-raising-a-child-in-UK-230000.html

there you go, op. If he pays at the level he says he will for 18 years, he's paid the whole lot and more.

summ · 05/09/2019 14:05

Can't help but instantly think you've trapped him and got pregnant on purpose because of his wealth and expected once you have his child you'll be entitled to his money. Sorry but no it doesn't work like that.

Jesse70 · 05/09/2019 14:06

Did u pick a rich man to fall pregnant with?

girlanonymous · 05/09/2019 14:06

YABU and coming across quite greedy to be honest. There's no need for you to be supported the money is for the baby. And that's quite a lot of money.

pikapikachu · 05/09/2019 14:07

iBut I am in this situation where it’s possible that the law says I’m entitled to more money from my ex. But at the same time I would feel so stupid if I somehow end up with less

You'll have to pay for your legal costs so you'll have £1273 but also a debt to solicitors.

Men in his situation can get accountants to radically decrease his earnings on paper and his savings would only count if you were married. Rock the boat and I suspect that it's a matter of time before he owes you £5pw rather than the generous £1273pm

CodenameVillanelle · 05/09/2019 14:08

You don't take the dad to court for more maintenance anyway. You could pay £20 for the CMS to administer the maintenance which would be no more than he's offered to pay you anyway.
Take the maintenance gladly, look into financial support for yourself as a single parent student and focus on making your lives better.

kryztinababy · 05/09/2019 14:09

That's a hella lotta money op. He is obliged to support the child, not you

flirtygirl · 05/09/2019 14:10

All the people mentioning what a low level of cm they get are stupid.

It not about what you receive as 12% of income is pretty crap and we should all be up in arms about it. The op is entitled to this so hence the £1273. Just because it is a high amount means nothing, as this is the legal minimum for that level of income.

The posters saying about a honey trap, paternity tests and hasn't the op done well for herself, can fuck off with their misogyny.

It takes two and that decision is at consensual sex. If he doesn't want to be involved fine but he needs to as the legal minimum.

Op accept the legal minimum as with the attitudes shown on this thread, 12% will never be more.

Find solutions to your other problems as you have chosen to keep the baby and here begins a lifetime of making decisions for the best of your child and finding solutions.

flirtygirl · 05/09/2019 14:13

To the people saying it supports the child not you, yes it does.

The amount doesn't matter as why should a child with a wealthy father, not get to do activities and have experiences from 12% of their fathers monthly income. Why are you wishing children of divorced or single mothers to go without? To miss out.

There are some Victorian attitudes on this thread.

hsegfiugseskufh · 05/09/2019 14:15

I hardly think this child will be missing out do you flirtygirl

nobody is wishing any children to go without. what a weird attitude Confused

hsegfiugseskufh · 05/09/2019 14:15

the only Victorian attitude on this thread is that having children with a wealthy man will set you up for life.

Pikapikachooo · 05/09/2019 14:17

I’d take that personally
Legal could mean you get less , or more but his parental rights are exercised which might not be what you want

summersherewishiwasnt · 05/09/2019 14:18

Why do you think he should support you ?? His child, yes of course. But I think he probably is exaggerating. £15,000 per month. Oooookaaaayyy then,

YellowSkyBlue · 05/09/2019 14:18

You can get child tax credits and money towards childcare while studying.

I think you have to apply for universal credit now.

AmIRightOrAMeringue · 05/09/2019 14:19

I dont think the OP is necessarily being grabby. The father is giving less than 10pc of his net take home pay towards the baby. That wont impact him at all. The mother is a student and worried about money. It is going to affect her massively and take most of her available income to look after this child. I think morally he should pay a bit more to enable her to get a degree and a better job as it wont be much to him but could really change his childs life in the long term

But you need to speak to a solicitor as fighting it in court may not be worth it. I would try and keep a civil relationship with him as he may have a relationship with the baby in the future

Brot64 · 05/09/2019 14:20

@YouSayPotatoesISayVodka

You can go to court for maintenance, married or unmarried as many times as you want, provided you have the money and sanity to keep up such a court battle. Usually this is seen with HNWI or where you have a divorcing couple where the children are already used to a certain standard of living and the higher earning parent is refusing to pay more/lower parent refusing to accept what has been offered.

Even after the order you can return a year later for an increase where the children's circumstances have changed. CMS only provides the guided max and I believe the I income on there is also capped so Court is usually a "better" alternative for those who believe they deserve more. Either way as many have mentioned I would advice her against it. She's also unlikely to be able to pay the kind of firm that will get the most for her here particularly, as he is self-employed and the likelihood of requiring an investigator etc are part of the process.

gorrisandhorace · 05/09/2019 14:21

@summersherewishiwasnt
He might be a bullshitter. I mean he doesn’t exactly sound like a man of integrity.
That said, why is it so hard to believe.
Plenty of people in London (and beyond) earn this and more. Who do you thinks provides services/ goods/ accommodation to all of London’s super rich?
Op what is his line of work btw?

hsegfiugseskufh · 05/09/2019 14:21

The mother is a student and worried about money. It is going to affect her massively and take most of her available income to look after this child. I think morally he should pay a bit more to enable her to get a degree and a better job as it wont be much to him but could really change his childs life in the long term

it was her decision to continue her pregnancy as a single mother. It is up to her to fund that decision.

it might be "nothing to him" but her degree isn't his problem, and whilst it could lead to his child having a better life, it also might not. He is contributing "his bit" its up to op to sort herself out

lyralalala · 05/09/2019 14:21

You don't take the dad to court for more maintenance anyway. You could pay £20 for the CMS to administer the maintenance which would be no more than he's offered to pay you anyway.

You can when their income exceeds what CMS deal with.

I don't agree that it's always a good idea to do so, but either way giving wrong information isn't good either.

AmIRightOrAMeringue · 05/09/2019 14:24

It is her decision to continue the pregnancy yes. But it was also decision to have sex.

I just think when all is said and done, contributing less than 10pc of your net pay towards a child, is shit.

Ohmygoodnessreally · 05/09/2019 14:25

Wowwwwww

BogglesGoggles · 05/09/2019 14:25

He is being very generous. He’s giving you a very generous sum to finance a child he doesn’t even want. You will be eligible for childcare and student loans, child benefit etc. Obviously rent in London is high so just leave London. I commute to London for university (while raising two children) it’s totally doable. You can’t expect someone who doesn’t want you or your child to finance a nice lifestyle for you.

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