Do not understand why some women adore Cliff Richard

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I just don't get it.

He isn't even a good singer.

What is the attraction? And why did the BBC award him so much compensation?

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I much preferred Adam Faith. Does anyone else remember him?

He did some decent songs. Maybe Channel 5 will make a documentary about his life sometime

He's given me the heebie jeebies since I was about 10. Something I can't quite put my finger on. Smarmy goodie two shoes. Always makes me suspicious and as a child my radar was set off. Mistletoe and Wine did it for me I think. So fake and just ick.

When I was little, my DM really liked him . So going off her, it's because he was clean cut & 'naice' & not in any way sexual. Anything sexual, like Elvis for example , was roundly disliked: with much pearl clutching. You'd never believe she was a teen in the 'permissive' 60's.

Why are there so many deletions on this thread? My post was deleted that pointed out there is a difference between an accusation being proven and an accusation not being proven. Didn’t say anything about Cliff

This always makes me laugh.

I adored him when I was a teenager - he and the Shadows were part of the soundtrack of my youth. And there are thousands of other people like me . The fact that you don't like him is your opinion - but many would disagree with you.

I was also wondering why there were so many deletions on this thread.

And SpamChaudFroid is such a good User Name, btw.

Eh?? I've been deleted? It's funny how nobody wants us to talk about it (any more)

Why thank you SirJames. It's inspired by the 70stastic All Colour Hamlyn Cookbook.

Even though I have a thorough dislike for the man, for reasons I'm not sure of I do have a ceramic effigy of the bachelor boy on my wall of weird.

Just waiting for my own message to be deleted now SpamChaudFroid

Some people just give off that vibe.
Cliff feels like a wrong un.

Maybe slightly sidetracking the issue, but Livin' Doll is a horrendously misogynistic song. A bit like the old Bobby Vee song Take Good Care Of My Baby - even though one of the co-writers of that was female.

At worst, you are merely property and at best, you're nothing more than an accessory whose sole purpose is to make THEIR life more pleasant.

Talk about Women: Know Your Place.

"I definitely find him cheesy now but there is nothing wrong with that, he has had an incredible career and was treated horrendously. When it was first in the news that he could be involved in that scandal I admit I wasn't sure if I thought he was guilty or not but seeing how he reacted and how his friends reacted once it was dropped I genuinely think he did nothing wrong."

Sums it up for me Glitterfisher. I'll still be watching "Summer Holiday".

Cliff certainly brings out some opposing feelings in people.

Ah... Many years ago in another hemisphere, Cliff was on tour and came to do a free lunchtime concert at my university in our posh new theatre with thrust stage. His day had already passed, really, so there were only a couple of dozen of us there. Friend and I bagged front and centre seats, eye level with his toes and were rapt. I could look right up his nose! At one point, he looked down and...smiled.

You'd have had to be there...and be 19. And know the Beatles were never, ever coming to your city.

Why wonder why pop music is popular? Most people wouldn't know good music if it slapped them in the face. They want something easy, comfortable that makes them part of the group.

I entirely agree with you about good music Hopoindown31.

I think the BBC were possibly amazed he went to court, considering the basically open secrets about cliff.

Nothing has ben proven unfounded, and these stories have been around long before that raid. Which, by the way, im sure the police didnt carry out for a laugh

Cracking up at that posh spice photo. I'm with you OP, each to their own but I can't fathom it, he's creepy as anything and I'm not seeing the vocal or performative genius . Popularity very seldom has much to do with talent though does it; hype is a wonderful thing!

Not my taste but he had plenty of number one records in the days when you had to sell a lot to get there. Part of the soundtrack to some people's youth.

As for the raid's publicity, as it was South Yorkshire Police, and happened to be at the time that their actions over Hillsborough were being investigated. I do not believe this was a total coincidence.

Yes I agree re Philip Schofield, he is in the same category as Cliff IMO.

I have never liked Philip Schofield and his prematurely greyed hair, which he seemed to strangely welcome, despite working in children's tv at the time.

I wonder how long the gag will go on for - I wonder if the truth'll come out after his demise like it did in MJ's case.

He once went on a very bizarre 'fact-finding' mission with Lord Longford and Jimmy Savile (look online if you want to know more). Not besmirching Cliff or LL's characters or accusing them of anything illegal, but it was an extremely weird (some might say sinister) exercise and choice of participants.