I'm wondering what boris is meant to do?

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The referendum result was leave .

The EU will not renegotiate but parliament wouldn't back the only deal available.

Now they won't back leaving at all.

The result was leave. Johnson promised to deliver that result.

So what now ?
There is No solution to this fuck up is there?

I know mn is primarily anti leave but for me the result was what it was and should be honoured. How many bites of the cherry should people get?

And not one party agrees with anything anyway. The EU will NOT negotiate so what are the options that the rebel MPs would like ?
Ignore the vote and pretend it didn't happen?

I am so sick of Brexit. David Cameron should be put in the stocks....

I sat there watching Jeremy Corbyn when he took the stand and found myself agreeing with him. This is bad. 😬

Idk what is going to happen. Does boris even have to adhere to the decision of parliament if they vote through blocking no deal?

JRM blathering away and has announced they’re prepared good Boy Scouts apparently. 🙄

Revoke

To this day cannot understand how ERG (and perhaps DUP now) are actually running the UK for their own benefit. No one else's really.

Honestly. Got my head in my hands now. Can people not see through this travesty?

The UK is no more a democracy than I am. A party within a party, and a party in NI propping the Tories up for their own gain.

Anyway, on a brighter note, the likes of JRM won't have to care about the effect of any downturn or trouble on the likes of the ordinary Joe or Josephine will they!

JRM is swallowing his words with plums right now, making no sense whatsoever. But hey ho.

I would imagine he is just killing time. At the last moment he’ll give Parliament the choice between the negotiated deal or no deal.

Boris Johnson should have insisted on parliament sitting over the summer, and tried to work with the EU to come up with a deal. He should not have promised solutions to the Irish border that everyone said were impossible, and instead looked for a real solution to NI if he felt the backstop was unacceptable.

If he really believed in brexit, he should have supported May's deal and actively helped her get it through.

He should not be pursuing a course of action that will actively cost lives.

But if he really truly believes no deal is the best thing for the UK, he should not be suspending parliament- unlike the usual recess, this means select committees cannot sit and will put barriers in the way of no deal planning.

It's like he actively wants the UK to crash out completely unprepared... and I wonder why he would want that to happen.

The three months would allow a general election to go ahead in a sensible time frame. It would allow all parties to campaign with plans for brexit, and it would give them a small amount of breathing room to allow them to make future plans.

It's not about bites of the cherry, it's about specifically stopping no deal brexit which has the potential to cause widespread suffering and unnecessary deaths.

@Witchend - so very very true.
Ridiculed May for incompetence, then when given his turn, makes Mickey Mouse look like a genius.

Today has exposed the old Etonian bullies for the waste of oxygen they are. No wonder they wanted to prorogue Parliament, one afternoon there and the wheels fall off. I feel cheerful for the first time in ages.

It's got to the point where another referendum seems to be the only option. A lot has changed since the last one, there are more eligible voters, possibly more people who will vote who didn't last time and people who have changed their minds. I think it's the only definitive thing to do. Other countries have had referendums in the past with differing results when taken again. Perhaps this time it will be the same or even more in favour of leave, who knows? The country is too divided and the politicians can't agree here or with the EU, so this seems to be the only way forward. I don't really know what a GE will achieve. They still won't be able to agree on the terms that we'll leave the EU.

Except if the ERG had agreed to May's WA we would be out by now
You seem to be very oddly forgetting all the other MPs who voted against it - why?

Other countries have had referendums in the past -with differing results when taken again- Until they got the "right" answer

What could Boris do?

Oh... I dunno. UK could MOVE ITS RED LINES , maybe?
UK is much more intransigent than EU about what Brexit has to look like. Even though not one of these red lines was on the ballot paper in 2016.
(sigh)

Hearing BJ also makes my skin crawl.

To hell. He and other lied and lied during campaigning for the legally non-binding referendum. If it was an election it would have been ruled illegal because of their lies.

He continues to lie. So do his cronies.

Kenneth Clarke is being marvelous.

How do you get to see the live parliamentary broadcast? I need a link #badatgooglesearches

never mind (not quite totally useless)
parliamentlive.tv/Commons

;-) Freeview I love watching them all. Though I might have drowned out Pob talking by defrosting mince in the microwave. JRM was quite terrifying!

It's all down to the red lines, and kowtowing to the DUP. The rest of NI would have been happy enough with the backstop, it would have been to their benefit, but as always the DUP swung the hammer. I don't think they're very popular in NI now, a lot of their core voters are farmers and business people who'd have welcomed the backstop.

Easy solution, tell ERG, Brexit party and DUP to bugger off.

Ditch May's red lines on immigration.

Go back to EU and say we will be in SM and CU after Brexit so don't need the backstop given he's a liar, this will need a leap of faith from the EU).

Get MPs to agree to SM and CU solution plus rights for EU citzens and "divorce bill". Leave EU on date to be agreed. We get on with life outside the EU but within the economic area.

It's very easy really. A compromise which is what was mandated by a 52-48 vote.

We all need to stop titting about, Boris included ( but not only him - the entire nation is engaged in a massive reality dodging exercise). The options are leave with mays deal, leave with no deal, stay. Same as when all this crap started.
Boris knows that but is trying to manage the part of the electorate that want to be fucking twats and not face up to where we are. And it’s wasting valuable time.

Cancel Brexit based on an illegal leave campaign- easy

The whole shower ought to hang their heads in shame. I could understand if the mps said look I do not agree with this but am following the wishes of my constituents. That way their hands are clean. But so many of them have said that their constituents are too stupid to know what is good for them. That really annoys me.

Resign!

As I predicted.
Sensitive little souls, the Brexit contingent. For all that they insist it’s the other side who are the lump wristed metropolitan types.