I'm wondering what boris is meant to do?

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The referendum result was leave .

The EU will not renegotiate but parliament wouldn't back the only deal available.

Now they won't back leaving at all.

The result was leave. Johnson promised to deliver that result.

So what now ?
There is No solution to this fuck up is there?

I know mn is primarily anti leave but for me the result was what it was and should be honoured. How many bites of the cherry should people get?

And not one party agrees with anything anyway. The EU will NOT negotiate so what are the options that the rebel MPs would like ?
Ignore the vote and pretend it didn't happen?

I am so sick of Brexit. David Cameron should be put in the stocks....

Yup, if Brexit never does come to pass, it'll be because Boris and the ERG failed to back May.

Not that Boris likely cares if he gets to be PM for a bit.

I for one am bloody glad that Corbyn and Labour are there to block BoJo’s madcap schemes!

He's been waiting for an excuse to have a general election for ages because he needs more Tories in the house to force brexit through but he couldn't have called one for that reason.

As for what he should do, he should climb up his hairy Tory arsehole, wiggle his posh boy head around and then shit down his stupid fucking neck.

I could do a better job myself!

The USA do not have an opposition system Of course they do! Why do you think Obama had so much trouble implementing the changes he wanted to make when he was President?!

Off you go then, stand for Parliament.

@expatinspain look it up! Everything online says that the U.S.A do not have an opposition system in the same way that the U.K do.

I am well aware that they have a minority party in the USA, but it is different! It is much more aggressive and antagonistic in the U.K

@Alsohuman maybe I will!

@Alsohuman I would happily do so.

It appears more antagonistic than it usually is because the issues that get get extensive debate are the divisive ones. If the majority of people (and their elected representatives) are in agreement then the issue doesn't get debated loudly, the motions just pass or not as expected. The arguements seem extreme because there's a huge amount of divided feeling in the UK and it's probably fairly representative of the general public.

Voting is turning into something of a UK national hobby, like tea and cricket

I honestly think the whole country is still so divided a GE will be hung parliament/small majority which will be no use for any WA vote due to rebels on both sides.

I am 35 and have a feeling I can still look forward to retirement before a Brexit solution

We need a modern written constitution.

@Angell84 - what, like Trump you mean?!

I worry that Leave has become so stymied by ‘we won’ that no amount of facts will convince them - they simply don’t want the facts. David Cameron gave them the Referendum and 52% of who voted on the day said Leave. I don’t know if it’s obstinacy or a genuine lack of grasping the strategic consequences of leaving, but nothing will change many Leavers minds. They blame Remain and the EU for making it too difficult and simply cannot comprehend why the EU can’t concede to our requests.

There is a misplaced and anachronistic view of the UK’s place in the world, and the vision that holds them all spellbound is the utopian view of Rule Britannia parting the waves and having the world bow to her and court her favours.

They won’t accept that for the larger part, we’re pretty low on favours, and actually we’ll be annihilating any we have left.

I feel we were lost when David Cameron used the electorates’ horror which was the reaction to the very much not in it together Austerity and the likes of Farage and Tommy Robinson feeding into latent xenophobia and using ISIS to generate more hatred and resentment.

From that point forward all involved have abandoned ethics, honesty and care for others. The country hasn’t been this divided for centuries, and it won’t recover,

Anything less than an unequivocal Revoke Article 50 completely will give a bad result. Do not trust decisions of this magnitude and complexity to the diverse electorate. You’re paid to LOOK AFTER the country, not feather your own nests and offer cynical bribes.

And @Angell84 - there’s a lot more people in parliament again BJ and his lies than Jeremy Corbyn. Are you sure you aren’t Donnie? Or Putin?

*I would vote to remove them all and then vote normal people in.

Every single one of them, in every party, is such an embarrassment and a disgrace.*

What a ridiculous statement. What are 'ordinary people'? I actually think the Tory rebels who tonight put their country first under the threat of expulsion from a party that they have belonged to for years and years, with younger ones potentially scuppering career plans as well, are actually pretty heroic and I admire their resolve. I just hope they all maintain it tomorrow - goodness knows what threats/cajoling/pressure Cummings et al will unleash on them over the next few hours. Apparently they can come back to the party as long as they behave tomorrow.

Angel why on earth do you think a government, especially a minority one, should be able to do whatever they like with opposition/scrutiny/debate? If they have a majority the system pretty much works.

The issue is that what people voted for can not be delivered. We either leave with a poor deal or we don't leave at all. We simply can not have the ideal deal voters were promised.

with no opposition...

The result was leave. Johnson promised to deliver that result. He promised we wouldn't leave without a deal and assured everyone that in fact we would get a very good deal (anything else was just Project Fear). He has spectacularly failed to us get a deal and has no suggestion as to what he might do to remedy that. What MPs are doing is actually trying to hold him to his word - they are trying to get him to carry out the will of the people.

Ordinary people have no idea how the parliamentary system works or know enough about politics. They would fuck it up even more than our current politicians

Johnson was all bluster and bluff. The issue is that only takes you so far. Anyone could see that the Eu were only going to make minor changes to the existing deal.

The result was leave. Johnson promised to deliver that result.
Having previously helped block Theresa May from delivering that result.

Well politicians are shit and I agree ordinary people would fuck it up so I reckon we should just put the queen in charge. She'd sort out this unholy mess.

No election, has to seek an extension, he may be forced to be resign worst case here

He should be forced to stay on and sort out the shit his predecessors created imo.

I wonder how the ham-faced Cameron feels this evening?

Does anyone think we are looking at both a general election & a second referendum at the same time?

He could stop digging. The hole we're in is big enough already.

He could come up with a credible alternative to the backstop - still waiting to hear about that one.

He could vote the deal May negotiated through.

He could go back to the drawing board.

He could hold a conformatory vote.

Lots of options.

I think that the election will effectively be a second referendum because that's all that anyone will talk about. Well, that and Johnson's dog.