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Aibu to think private school kids wearing their logoed school jumpers at the weekend is weird?

494 replies

zzzzzzzz12345 · 02/09/2019 22:47

Isn’t it a bizarre stealth boast, except it’s not stealthy at all and a bit attention seeking? I know several children who do this. If your child does, why?

You’d never catch a state educated child wearing their school jumper at the weekend. If my child started to, I’d suggest they changed.

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ChazsBrilliantAttitude · 03/09/2019 11:10

OP
You are entitled to object to private schools.
You are entitled to campaign against them.
You are not entitled to criticise children for the educational choices made by their parents.

Butchyrestingface · 03/09/2019 11:11

Got to 🖐 it to OP. Most people only criticise the parents of privately educated children for their elitist choices.

This OP takes it a step further and boldly goes where few would dare to go by slagging off the weans for their selection of outerwear on the weekends. Grin

Shimy · 03/09/2019 11:11

@ThunderingOn I think you need to go back and read the exchange that led to “or perhaps they have pride/more pride”, you’ve focussed on one sentence and lost the context In which it was said.

floravus · 03/09/2019 11:12

My DH wears tshirts with his old School logo on even now. He's 30. He had so many tshirts/jumpers/gilets all sorts from different school teams/events/charity days and they are nice quality clothing! I wear one of his school gilets to walk the dog. Seems a shame to not get the use out of them just because they have the school logo on. Maybe it's just this reason.

Streamside · 03/09/2019 11:12

Leavers hoodies are very important in this area and I think it's lovely to see young people take pride in their schools.

LondonJax · 03/09/2019 11:12

One of our friends has a DC at private school - the parents are both committed (and full member) socialist labour. BUT their child struggled in primary school and the local comprehensive didn't have the greatest reputation for 'middle band' results. Their DC wouldn't have passed the eleven plus so couldn't go to grammar school or be in the grammar band at the local comp. So they've done what they consider the best for their DC and have saved to get them to private school. They're doing very well. They do have to attend school (usually sports - everyone has to do a sport) on Saturdays but get the longer holidays to make up for it. They have to wear uniform - they're representing the school.

Our DS passed his eleven plus and goes to the local comprehensive in the grammar band. He loves it. He also wears uniform some weekends when he does open days or represents the school at events like sporting events etc.,

So uniform at the weekends isn't particularly unusual. Sending your child to private school is, perhaps, more unusual but parents all try to do the best for their children to the best of their own ability. Our friends are lucky enough to have good jobs but they did a lot of soul searching with the private school system - it doesn't work for their political or social values but sometimes you have to put them aside, if you can afford it, to get the future you want for your child.

zzzzzzzz12345 · 03/09/2019 11:22

Mummy195 - I was addreessing directly a poster who said I was jealous because I couldn’t afford it. That’s all.

To the poster who said it will change nothing - you’re probably rifht looking at our Eton boy cabinet. But I would still never send my kids into a system I abhor just because my stance won’t change the world overnight. Nothing would ever change if everyone capitulated.

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MaggietheHorseThief · 03/09/2019 11:25

Saturday school was very much not optional at mine! Classes til lunch time then compulsory sports until 5pm (though I was excused from the sports part because I participated in a sport off campus).

In addition, during the winter you had a two hour break in the afternoon for sports or community benefit activities, then classes until 7pm. To make the most of the short daylight hours.

Not to mention the endless assemblies / events etc in the evenings.

It's mostly because holidays are so long (month at Christmas, month at Easter, two months in the summer, two week half terms). They have to make up the hours spend in class.

As a kid you just see it as normal to be honest.

And all that said, people definitely used to wear school branded jumpers out of school sometimes. It's just an example of teenage tribalism, I think. We all grew out of it pretty sharp when we left school.

Milicentbystander72 · 03/09/2019 11:26

For what it's worth I totally agree with your education principles OP (I'm a governor at State School and choose not to go private either).

The only difference is I've not noticed the wearing of uniform outside of school, but then I'm sure we're not in the same area.

bengalcat · 03/09/2019 11:28

Mine wears her private school leavers hoody on occasion out of school - doubtless if she had gone to a state school and had a hoody she would be wearing that one .

TheMarschallin · 03/09/2019 11:28

Would it be OK for a child to wear a hoody from a fee paying school that caters for a particular talent where there is no provision in the state sector? So, specialist dance or music schools, or junior conservatories?

I’m not trying to be difficult but I wonder where you stand on private provision for gifted children in the arts?

OtraCosaMariposa · 03/09/2019 11:30

Of course it's an anti private school thread.

I have never seen private school kids wearing uniform out of hours, ever.

OP clearly thinks she's some sort of saint by putting her children into state school, being demanding and thinking she's going to win a mummy martyr award, or somehow single handedly change the system. All those entitled, selfish parents who pay for private education will see the error of their ways, because she's so brave and clever. Hmm

(And for the record, my kids are at a really good state comp. I have no issues at all with people who choose to spend their money in other ways.)

SolitudeAtAltitude · 03/09/2019 11:33

private school educated kids often have Saturday school (and go out straight after school with parents for lunch) or weekend sports events.

My kids (state educated) often wear their uniform even after school as they can't be bothered to change

BertrandRussell · 03/09/2019 11:35

To add to the mob- could be Saturday school.

But I do think the clamour of private school parents declaring “of course it’s not stealth boasting!” Is deeply disingenuous. Of course some parents boast about this sort of stuff. It’s just human nature. My ds has a hoody from something quite prestigious- and I can’t help myself being pleased when he wears it. I’m proud of him.

Milicentbystander72 · 03/09/2019 11:36

OP is not really being a 'mummy martyr' though us she?
She vehemently believes in something, argues for it and lives by it. She believes she's genuinely doing the best thing for her dcs. Not really martyrdom?

It's ok to shoot about your principles. We all do it.

goose1964 · 03/09/2019 11:37

Are you in Scotland? Around here private schools won't be back for another 2 weeks or so. It does sound weird unless they are at school.

Milicentbystander72 · 03/09/2019 11:37

Shout not shoot.

Lilyannarose · 03/09/2019 11:40

Our village school regularly does this for singing in the church choir (on a Sunday). They are all asked to attend in uniform.

milveycrohn · 03/09/2019 11:41

My sister still complains that as a child she once had to wear her school dress on a Saturday. We had few other clothes, and I think at the time, this was probably the only dress she had.
Re private (independent) schools. I think this is where the 'old school tie' comes from. Normal state school kids would normally not want to be seen dead in their uniform (obviously the hoodies thingy mentioned earlier must be an exception).

Ali1cedowntherabbithole · 03/09/2019 11:46

I can rail against the inequality of private schools plenty, but I’m struggling to get worked up by this. Even if the OP is correct and it is about showing off.

Better to be proud of a school than wear a garment with an ill advised logo on it made in a third world sweatshop.

zzzzzzzz12345 · 03/09/2019 11:50

It’s been throughout the holidays. August. Not in Scotland and schools were not bsck at the beginning of August. Of course kids will wear uniform on the days they represent their school. This is not it.

And on the basis that I refer to educational apartheid shows that the state provision here is by no means outstanding. There are some, but there are others that suffer because a significant minority go private. It becomes a vicious circle, people who would state educate choose not to because their local school isn’t great.

I’m not jealous. I don’t blame the kids. I don’t even blame the parents, education is a lottery and you have to have big hairy balls to say ‘I refuse to pay my way out of this’. And I get why people don’t, even if I don’t think their choice is morally right.

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Beesandcheese · 03/09/2019 11:54

Performance to attend? PE sports thibgs? Fundraisers? Saturday detention? I had to wear mine for all of those for my state school.

zzzzzzzz12345 · 03/09/2019 12:04

Are people reading my posts? It’s during school holidays, not for school events. It’s for leisure, not uniform, purposes.

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senua · 03/09/2019 12:09

There are some, but there are others that suffer because a significant minority go private. It becomes a vicious circle, people who would state educate choose not to because their local school isn’t great.
It's a funny old world. We have an area like that in our local city. We also have an equally desirable area where most parents go State. I have no idea why people choose to live in the former rather than the latter. I think it's because of the proximity of two large publicly-funded employers who employ educated, well-paid people (hospital, University). Make of that what you will.

zzzzzzzz12345 · 03/09/2019 12:21

Senua - I’m admittedly juggling but still missing your point?

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