Aibu to think private school kids wearing their logoed school jumpers at the weekend is weird?

[zzzzzzzz12345]

Isn’t it a bizarre stealth boast, except it’s not stealthy at all and a bit attention seeking? I know several children who do this. If your child does, why?

You’d never catch a state educated child wearing their school jumper at the weekend. If my child started to, I’d suggest they changed.

Oh come on, Jacques! You don’t think intelligence and education can only be measured by exam results, surely? I am sure you know well educated people with no A levels.
Incidentally, all my anecdotes are real. I have lived a very long and at some times eventful life. I have no need to make them up!

But your post of 19.32 suggests that either you are not real, or you have such a narrow view of education that this conversation is pointless.

Yes, the evidence of your mum plus David and Kate has overwhelmed my arguments completely. I do admit that I have a fairly narrow view of education, mostly because I excelled * at it.

• NB. "Excelled" here carries the standard meaning, rather than "failed completely".

Incidentally, all my anecdotes are real. I have lived a very long and at some times eventful life. I have no need to make them up!

Arf, oh well you’ve convinced me. I mean it’s not like anyone else on the internet claims their anecdotes are real.

I’d have more inclination to believe you if you didn’t display such utter hypocrisy across threads.

OP - I would say 99% of the children I know between the ages of 4 to 17 are privately educated (these are school friends of my own DC). I have never, in all the years my DC have been in school, seen a child wearing school uniform or sportswear during the school holidays. Nor ever.

Where on earth do you live?

We live between some of the most sought after schools in the UK - St Paul’s Boys, Latymer Upper; Godolphin & Latymer etc and this simply does not happen.

On the contrary, the so-called “top of the league tables” school in the UK - St Paul’s Girls - doesn’t even have a uniform. There have been occasions at other similar schools in our area when pupils are told to not wear their blazers to and from school so as not to be conspicuous ie. a target for muggings / other attacks. By Sixth Form there is no uniform for most of these schools.

As for your point about educational inequality, well, I don’t disagree with you there. But can you answers these questions -

Do you think the faith school system is fair?
Do you think the state school system is fair? Or would you say it’s a postcode lottery?
Do you really think education can ever be “fair?”
If so, how?
How would you stop “those who can” supporting their local schools, or moving to areas where the schools are perceived to be better?
Will a school in a deprived area ever face the same challenges as one in a very affluent area?

Could they be proud of their school maybe? If it's a school team or track uniform they're proud to be in that team? The way people who don't play for Manchester United wear the team jersey?

zzzzzzzz12345 I teach in a state school. All U.K. state schools are currently underfunded. If al Private Schools shut tomorrow, how would the government afford to build, staff and resource new state schools to accommodate the private school pupils?

Are you seriously going to argue that a top school and university can do nothing to enrich the minds of the products of even the most cultured families?
[CendrillonSings]

Though it's hard to type while falling off my chair laughing, I give you:
Boris Johnson
Jacob Rees-Mogg
The Tory front bench.

And last but not least, David Cameron.

Sorry, couldn't resist.

@zzzzzzzz12345 How do you feel about university hoodies?
Are they ok to wear out of term time? Would someone wearing an Oxbridge hoodie be seen as bragging as opposed to their mate who wears a Bradford (for example) university hoodie? North versus South? Europe versus USA?
My daughter, son in law and friends all wore their private school hoodies a lot. Often the nearest warm top to put on. I can assure you there was no thought process involved by them or me. And the girls often wore the boys hoodies too.
You reek of spite......

@mathanxiety you don’t have to like them. I’d like to get rid of the entire lot with a flame thrower. But you can’t deny they are successful.

Not to mention people from Charles Darwin to Richard Curtis have passed through the private school system. I think it’s disingenuous to imply that the system only turns out Tory politicians 🙄

Lots of kids at our private school wear their hoody at weekends and the chill coat. They are really nice so why bother buying another one?

Private schools turn out plenty of successful, clever people who make a huge contribution to society in many different ways. Why would anyone think they didn't?
Also the 'air of superiority' is actually self confidence and self belief, which i think we can all agree that all teens would benefit from.

“Private schools turn out plenty of successful, clever people who make a huge contribution to society in many different ways. Why would anyone think they didn't? ”

Of course they do. The point is so do state schools.

No, that's not the 'point'. That's not what this thread is about. It's about private school kids having the temerity to wear a piece of clothing with their school's name on it. It's definitely worth mentioning that not all those kids are mini JRMs.

Humans being what they are, I am absolutely sure that some kids wear or are encouraged to wear school hoodies as a stealth boast. The people saying this would never happen are burying their heads in the sand. I live in a selective area, and I know that the grammar kids sometimes wear their school PE hoodies to town or county sports events “because they are so comfortable” This happens particularly in Year 7. It’s an unattractive but understandable vanity.

The people saying this would never happen are burying their heads in the sand

Oh it happens in my area. It’s just kids from the state schools (both primary and secondary) do it more.

In fairness to Bertrand, she was asked to name three people and did.

This thread has got a bit weird (and moved well on from the original wearing school jumpers issue).

The friends who send their children to state schools are clever. Their children are clever and do very well. I’m sure no one thinks that they are missing out.

Similarly, not all private schools are swanky places full of people chanting in Latin. I know one family who sent their child to a school that specialises in children with dyslexia - he can now read but there aren’t any of the “frills” described on here.

But who even cares? If dd wants to wear her first team lacrosse hoodie to the pub, who literally gives a shit? Even if that meant she is trying to subjugate every other teenager in the pub to her inherent superiority?

Do you get this angry with people who use Waitrose bags when they shop in Lidl?

My son had Saturday school and regular weekend events in which he had to wear uniform.

“But who even cares? If dd wants to wear her first team lacrosse hoodie to the pub, who literally gives a shit?”
Because generally in this country we don’t care for showing off. You must know that! We prefer people who wear excellence lightly.

At this rate we'll have a Jeremy Corbyn led government, he'll slap vat onto school fees and a introduce a punative corporation tax rate and follow through with ridiculous notions of companies giving up their shares and nobody will be able to afford independent schools anyway. So it will all be irrelevant.

If dd wants to wear her first team lacrosse hoodie to the pub, who literally gives a shit?

Seemingly adults who get utterly antagonised by the innocuous action of children. Bizarre.

Dh sometimes wears his triathlon finisher tshirt in public. Hope he's not making the non triathletes feel bad about themselves.

My state educated child wears his school leavers' hoodie all the time outside school because he likes it. And tbh if the kids at the private schools I've worked at wore their school jumper in the holidays it wouldn't be to show off about their private school. To them, their school is just the school they happen to go to. It feels like a normal school to them, because that's what they are used to - so what is there to show off about? There may be insufferable show-offs at other private schools who love to show they think they attend a superior school, but I've never seen that. To them it's just school.

I think times must have changed - school hoodies seem to be quite cool, Kids wearing them at the weekends, feeling belonging to their school is nothing to be ashamed of - I'm talking state school kids - is this not a good thing?