Aibu to think private school kids wearing their logoed school jumpers at the weekend is weird?

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Isn’t it a bizarre stealth boast, except it’s not stealthy at all and a bit attention seeking? I know several children who do this. If your child does, why?

You’d never catch a state educated child wearing their school jumper at the weekend. If my child started to, I’d suggest they changed.

Nope, the main ambition is happiness. It’s just much easier to be happy if you’re well-educated and well-paid, and so enjoy a life of options rather than one of closed doors. So might we agree that choosing the best possible education would be the right thing for a parent to do?

Note I am not saying that private school is the only path to those outcomes, but it certainly improves the odds of success

Well I'm not sure how else to interpret parents being accused of "selling out" children who don't go to private schools.

There are a great many glorified secondary moderns in the private sector who would be easily outperformed. They trade on snobbery and exactly this fallacy that private is de facto better than state.

Even if I had gone private, I woudn’t have relied on school alone for that!

And if I had suggested that the family had no role to play in a child’s intellectual development, that would be a fair criticism. But I didn’t, so it’s not.

Are you seriously going to argue that a top school and university can do nothing to enrich the minds of the products of even the most cultured families?

“Note I am not saying that private school is the only path to those outcomes, ....”

Well, you are a bit, aren’t you?

You’re a bit wrong on the main point though, aren’t you?

I’m genuinely curious what this immense familial privilege is that you imagine allows you to take the “education, edusmashun!” attitude. If not a duchess, then what? Regius Professor, bank CEO, partner in a magic circle firm, world-famous novelist, widget heiress? None of these are an excuse for not providing the best education you can afford.

"My children are very privileged anyway. They don’t need to get more from school."

I literally can’t imagine how privileged I would have to be to maintain that attitude

Me neither. Breathtakingly arrogant.

id love to live in a country where health, education and public services are not sold best to the highest bidder

I’d love to live in a country where people actually get given any of the schools they put as a “choice”. But then choice is the biggest fallacy going with regards to our education system. Damn right I exercised my right to choose an appropriate education for my daughter.

It is also a fallacy that private school parents choose a school. Often the child will sit exams for 6 and get into none or their worst choice. If the tests are hard most of the children sitting will fail to get in.

it is also a fallacy that private school parents choose a school. Often the child will sit exams for 6 and get into none or their worst choice. If the tests are hard most of the children sitting will fail to get in

You can choose to try though!

For example DD took one private, one state grammar.

Scholarship to private and got into the grammar, so we had a back up had we not got in on catchment.

“I’m genuinely curious what this immense familial privilege is that you imagine allows you to take the “education, edusmashun!” ”

You misunderstand me. I value education very highly. And my children are very well educated. I just don’t think you need private school to do that.

Definitions of "very well educated" are likely to differ. Not to drag other threads into this, but you recently gave Corbyn a pass over his infamous two Es, so I'm not totally confident in the metrics you're using.

If you remember, I was refusing to judge Corbyn’s intelligence by his A level results, not his education.

At least we've agreed on something - someone with two Es is poorly educated! It's the most nugatory agreement in history, but it's a start.

p.s. Corbyn is still stupid.

You can choose to try though!

Most private schools offer scholarships and bursaries, so the choice to try does extend beyond those who can pay the fees outright.

“At least we've agreed on something - someone with two Es is poorly educated!“

No. Someone from his background at a selective school and no other mitigating circumstances with 2 Es at A level may well be poorly educated. Who knows what other education they may have in other areas?

I know people with no A levels at all who are very well educated indeed.

And people with 4, who I would consider very poorly educated.

I know people with no A levels at all who are very well educated indeed.

Really? Name three!

And people with 4, who I would consider very poorly educated.

Of course it's no guarantee, because A-levels are frankly very easy, but in most cases there will be a correlation between possessing 4 top grades and a reasonable overall level of education.

“Really? Name three!”
My mother.
A friend of mine called David.
Another friend called Kate.
I’m sorry you don’t know them.

My mother
A friend of mine called David
Another friend called Kate

I’m sorry but that’s utterly priceless 😂😂😂

But your post of 19.32 suggests that either you are not real, or you have such a narrow view of education that this conversation is pointless.

Maybe representing the school doing some sort of activity

This.

The organisation I work for does a lot of STEM stuff in school and at careers fairs over the weekend. The children often wear their jumpers, out of choice.

“I’m sorry but that’s utterly priceless”

Why? I was asked to name three people who are very well educated but have no A levels and I did. Not my fault you don’t know them. Actually, you might well know David- he’s a reasonably well known author. Under another name, naturally.

Because Bertrand it’s so YOU.

Not my fault you don’t know them

What, these imaginary anecdotes to fit your endless agenda? Yeah, forgive me if I’m sceptical.