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Aibu to think private school kids wearing their logoed school jumpers at the weekend is weird?

494 replies

zzzzzzzz12345 · 02/09/2019 22:47

Isn’t it a bizarre stealth boast, except it’s not stealthy at all and a bit attention seeking? I know several children who do this. If your child does, why?

You’d never catch a state educated child wearing their school jumper at the weekend. If my child started to, I’d suggest they changed.

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chocolatesaltyballs22 · 03/09/2019 16:39

Ah ok, think there have been accusations both ways to be fair. But my view is each to their own. Do what you think is best for your own child within the realms of what your circumstances dictate that you are able to do.

myself2020 · 03/09/2019 16:39

@PooWillyBumBum i find that the people who proud themselves on “not sending their kids to private school out of principle” are usually the ones who spend 150k extra on a house right next to an outstanding school. hence actively taking a space away that a child from a less affluent background could have had.....

BertrandRussell · 03/09/2019 16:44

“are usually the ones who spend 150k extra on a house right next to an outstanding school. hence actively taking a space away that a child from a less affluent background could have had.....”
Well, that’s not what I did, but hey ho. It’s not an option for the overwhelming majority of people anyway- however much they give up Sky and dig down the back of the sofa.

chocolatesaltyballs22 · 03/09/2019 16:47

Well I spent £150k extra on a house to be closer to private school to avoid long school run...not sure what box that puts me in!!

PettyContractor · 03/09/2019 16:48

It would be odd if they were wearing shirts and ties and school blazers and black leather shoes, possibly a boater. However a jumper or hoodie or sports/leisureware sounds like like the kind of clothes anyone would wear to relax in. Does OP think people who have these with a school logo on have some sort of moral duty to own and wear versions of these clothes that don't have a logo?

I went to a boarding school, while I did have some non-uniform clothing, as a teenager I did not own a T-shirt, pair of shorts, rugby jersey, jumper or swimming costume or jacket that wasn't school uniform. (Though to be fair most of those items did not have logos.) Why would I buy clothes that duplicated the function of school uniform that I could only wear during school holidays?

CendrillonSings · 03/09/2019 16:52

“Far better to sell out their principles - or rather your principles - than to sell out their kids!”

And I’ll say it again, because I was right. What next? “Sorry kids, we’ve got plenty of money but we’re going to raise you in a hovel, feed you junk, buy you no books, and if you ever need medical treatment you can bloody well wait in line like everyone else because... principles!”

Adults can practise their principles on themselves if they wish; inflicting them on their own children is just cruel.

Bouledeneige · 03/09/2019 16:59

I don't think it would bother me where they went to school. I was surprised how often my state school kids wore their leavers hoodies at the weekend and in the holidays.

zzzzzzzz12345 · 03/09/2019 17:01

Yeah Cendrillon, teaching your kids that buying educational privilege is wrong is a terrible life lesson... Jesus.

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Milicentbystander72 · 03/09/2019 17:03

So CendrillionSings you think that someone having the financial means but choosing not to send their children to Private School (because they are principally opposed to buying a privileged education) is 'cruel'.

Ok then.

zzzzzzzz12345 · 03/09/2019 17:04

And yes, we don’t take up private healthcare for the same reasons. I have a child who needs consultant care. I wouldn’t dream of queue jumping. So yes, you’re right in much of your list Cendrillon. It’s called raising your kids according to your own moral compass. We all do it.

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CendrillonSings · 03/09/2019 17:04

Yeah Cendrillon, teaching your kids that buying educational privilege is wrong is a terrible life lesson... Jesus.

Indeed it is - we don’t live in some statist nightmare of enforced equality, and few of us would want to.

BertrandRussell · 03/09/2019 17:05

My children are very privileged anyway. They don’t need to get more from school.

As I have frequently said in the past, the tragedy is that the children who would benefit most from a good private education are the ones who have no chance at all of ever getting one.

Milicentbystander72 · 03/09/2019 17:07

My children are very privileged anyway. They don’t need to get more from school.
*
As I have frequently said in the past, the tragedy is that the children who would benefit most from a good private education are the ones who have no chance at all of ever getting one*

^^ all of this, yes.

Aragog · 03/09/2019 17:11

What uniform items do you actually mean?

Never seen it ever, despite working in the state sector and having had a child in the private sector, over several years. Not for just kid's leisure wear! TBH all the children I knew who had a strict uniform for school would never have dreamt of wearing their basic school uniform items at a weekend/holiday as they were desperate to be able to wear their own clothes out of school!

Or do you mean just a leaver's hoodie? If so - well that happens for ALL the schools round here - state and private.

Or do you mean like a sport's team sweater or jacket perhaps? Again, a bit different and round here I have seen it on occasions from both state and private schools. Could also be children doing sports sessions at a weekend - again common in both sectors.

CendrillonSings · 03/09/2019 17:15

My children are very privileged anyway. They don’t need to get more from school.

I literally can’t imagine how privileged I would have to be to maintain that attitude. Even for the children of a royal duchess (to pick an MN fave!) there are many things an excellent school can provide that family culture, wealth, and connections cannot.

twoshedsjackson · 03/09/2019 17:16

Are you 100% certain they are pupils at the independent school?
At the independent boys' school where I used to teach, space for storage of lost property was limited. So after the regular sessions when named property was returned, and unnamed possessions put out for claiming, there would be some good stuff left, and one of our PTA mummies, who was a social worker, would pass items in good condition on to needy families. Shoes, white shirts and the like could pass anywhere, but the jumper and socks bore very distinctive stripes! (and as I have said before, I was always baffled to know how any child could leave their underwear at school without noticing.....)

5zeds · 03/09/2019 17:20

It’s wrong to assume public school is automatically “better”. Personally I think it’s down to the individual what they spend their money on. If you’ve got it choose chicken instead of spam, fresh veg instead of stodge, private medicine, private school, vitamins, foreign holidays, whatever. I’m not sure why that makes things worse for anyone.

zzzzzzzz12345 · 03/09/2019 17:21

Cendrillon - id love to live in a country where health, education and public services are not sold best to the highest bidder.

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PermanentPortakabin · 03/09/2019 17:23

My dd spent months lounging around in her prep school sports hoodie after she left to go to secondary.

She has a leavers hoodie as well, but she liked the familiarity and nostalgia of her kit hoodie. Obviously she couldn’t wear it in the week, as she had a different school uniform to wear, so yes, she did wear it at weekends/during school holidays.

She still does (it’s getting a bit small now though).

I honestly don’t understand the problem. It’s a jumper that she likes to wear. Here are no feelings of superiority, or anything other than fond memories of a school she misses now she has left.

5zeds · 03/09/2019 17:23

there are many things an excellent school can provide that family culture, wealth, and connections cannot. I’m not sure this is true. I think the drivers of “success” are things like wealth, sex, location, maternal education, NOT school???

BertrandRussell · 03/09/2019 17:24

“there are many things an excellent school can provide that family culture, wealth, and connections cannot.”
Name me some. Then I’ll tell you whether I can or can’t provide them, and whether I consider them important or not.

combatbarbie · 03/09/2019 17:28

Mine does their hockey/rugby fixtures most saturday mornings. Children are free to be collected after this point. If there are no games on it is a normal weekend pass but it's rare, and mine rarely opts to come home, preferring to stay at school.

And she has her school hoody and her house hoody.... Both of which she wears constantly. They are comfy.... And maybe just maybe they are a bit proud to wear it!??????

CendrillonSings · 03/09/2019 17:33

Name me some. Then I’ll tell you whether I can or can’t provide them, and whether I consider them important or not.

Perhaps you are a royal duchess after all, with that level of imperiousness Shock
The main thing is of course excellent, ambitious teaching in an environment conducive to learning and high achievement, which leads to top exam results, which leads to excellent universities, which leads to high-paying jobs, an intellectual hinterland, and the ability to live a genuinely independent life.

Note I am not saying that private school is the only path to those outcomes, but it certainly improves the odds of success.

BertrandRussell · 03/09/2019 17:39

Ah right. Yep- I can see that would be some people’s ambition for their children. Top university and megabucks.

BertrandRussell · 03/09/2019 17:41

Intellectual hinterland? Even if I had gone private, I woudn’t have relied on school alone for that!