To not understand Brexit?

[HakunaMatataa]

Please don't come for me, I am very out of the loop r.e: Brexit. I have no idea what is happening and what the implications of this could be on our everyday lives.

I keep seeing threads about stock piling ect and now I'm left wondering if I should be preparing?!

So basically I suppose I'd like some views on Brexit, some pro's and cons in layman's terms, so I can try and get my head around it please.

Is this just alot of scare mongering going on or shall I be concerned?

I've obviously googled this but politics isnt my strong point and I just don't get it.

Because negotiating international trade agreements is not straightforward ?

Do you actually have any idea of the scale of this? It’s dominated the political agenda for over 3 years and despite now having Boris to save us all, still isn’t sorted. Doesn’t that give you a clue that it’s extremely complex? Plus it’s not a trade deal. It’s trade deals with the EU and also all the other countries who have deals with the EU as we won’t be part of their deals any more.

I absolutely don’t think you’re thick but this is pretty basic stuff

And they won't negotiate on a trade deal until, you know, the whole Ireland thing is sorted...

Boris, is that you?

Oh and the £29bn is paid...

It’s not really basic is it? Besides what one person finds easy another might struggle with? Can you play a grade 8 piece on piano that I might find easy?

You guys can’t just go round giving faces and because someone doesn’t hold the same opinion as you. Its not really an argument is it...

Why do we owe 29 billion?

Not understanding something is not the same as having a different opinion.

Typo. My bad... £39 bn

You know when you decide to improve your house and your builder gives a quote, you accept and they start work.
In addition you take out a lease on a car and start driving it.
Then you join a gym and sign a contract for a year.
Then you sign up to cable tv for a year.

It doesn't take long to sign up to financial commitments for a couple of years.

I hope none of you are teachers! Asking questions is bad. Not understanding “basic” stuff means you are totally thick... any other insults?

Let’s return to this thread in a years time and see how bad things turned out

Again...Why can’t we make a trade agreement?

T May made an interim agreement. But in her party Brexiteers voted against it.

But this stuff has been all over the news for years now. It’s hardly the same as displaying aptitude in a musical instrument you’ve practiced and sat exams in so your example is not in point. Seriously my 13 year old understands the complexities around leaving the EU better than you.

Did you not feel any responsibility to at least read up or educate yourself even a tiny bit before you decided how to vote?

It’s also not about “opinion”. You clearly don’t have a clue about very basic issues involved in Brexit. You have no comprehension that you can’t just randomly sell stuff across international borders without there being some sort of trade arrangement in place and even the basics of the EU “freedoms” and the single market.

What is 39 million spent on?

Why does Britain have to pay anything to the EU if it is leaving?

When Britain became a member of the 28-nation bloc, it agreed to a whole range of rules—including the EU’s long-term budget and contributing to huge infrastructure projects that have a long time frame for completion.

Britain signed up to the EU’s budget framework when it became a member; budgets are not calculated year by year. The EU budget is a “legal act” and is over a seven year span. The last one started in 2014 and it ends in 2020. So, when Britain leaves the EU—tentatively set for March, 2019—it will still be liable to pay its share for the remaining seven quarters—from April 2019 until the end of 2020.

Even if Britain leaves in 2019, if there are projects it agreed to contribute to that are meant to be completed by 2030, it would still have to pay for what it promised to fund at the time. This is the same for if a project in the UK was meant to be completed by 2030—EU members would have to continue paying the UK.

I haven’t said you were thick and I’ve done my best to answer your questions, given I’m no more than a normal person myself who’s just followed the news and kept myself informed, but I’m just a bit blown away at the lack of even the most basic understanding

Yeah I did educate myself thanks very much. Along with over half the country!

TL;DR We have to pay because we are defaulting on our financial commitments.

Over half the country did not vote Leave.

I can’t believe that this many people don’t have a grasp of “basic” stuff. I think there must be more at play here. Over half the country are thickos? I just don’t believe that!

When we give money to eu what happens to it? Where does it go?

Yeah I did educate myself thanks very much. Along with over half the country!

With respect, your complete lack of understanding on this thread would tend to suggest otherwise.

I get that people wanted to leave the EU and for example found the ever increasing social, political and economic union unpalatable. I do get that, even if I don’t agree. What I don’t get is that people seemed to think it was just as easy as walking away and didn’t realise that unpicking the aforementioned 40 years of increasing social, political and economic union might be a little bit complicated. Really?!

I can't believe the short memory of some people on here re: NI and the bombings that happened in England in the nineties. The flippancy people are treating the possibility of a return to violence with is madness.

@Trimummy3

Here is a link that answers the question “Where does the EU money go?”

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-eu-referendum-36368792

A very crude analogy to try and explain what is happening

You are part of a football club, you want to play matches with other teams, you go to individual teams and set up the match, organise a venue, organise match officials and pay whatever the venue decides to charge you, all the while going back and forth between the team you want to play and the venue/officials/etc and eventually agree a time and date, you need to do this for every game you want to play.

You decide to join a league, for this you pay subscriptions, the league arranges all the matches, venues and times, they also arrange the officials and everyone in the league pays the same reduced cost for the venue.

You then have enough of the league dictating who/when you play and making up rules, and you don't want to pay money for something you can do yourself, you withdraw from the league but you still want to play games.

Now you have to arrange everything yourself again BUT the other teams in the league are happy with their arrangement, they don't want to deal with you individually and you are no longer entitled to the reduced costs of venues.

You can look elsewhere for teams to play but again it will be individually and you will have to pay going rates for the venues, each venue charges what they want and each team has their own ideas of how/when/where they will play, and their own set of rules, some teams won't play with you if you have already set up a match with a team they don't like, or might try and get you to change the terms/rules of your matches with other teams if you want to play with them.

I hope I made that as clear as possible and of course is in very simple terms and not exactly the scenario we are in but gives an idea of what I think is happening.

In the football league situation do they charge 8 billion a year?

Do they give most of that money to the poorer teams for a new kit whilst your own kit is falling to pieces?