To wonder what is more terrifying to the public of Mumsnet, Corbyn or Brexit Fallout?

[BlueDaBabaDee]

So either way we look we seem to have poor prospects.

Potential fears from either side...
Brexit = potential food shortages, medicine shortages, increase of house burglaries, riots, looting, at least half the jobs gone, pound becoming worthless, NHS collapse, economy going down etc.

Corbyn = land value tax, communist, everyone losing their property, house prices crashing, economy going down, etc

I'm not saying I believe either of these things exactly, although I think we will be facing an economy worse than the fall of 2008 after Brexit. I'm more curious as to what people here think.

So to the haters who will say "Another Brexit thread blah blah blah". No one made you click! Stop trying to silence the critics.

Anyways for voting purposes, what is more worrisome to you?

YANBU = the fallout from a BJ led No Deal Brexit
YABU = Jeremy Corbyn in charge

@BlueDaBabaDee sounds potentially like a good idea to me. But it’s speculation and proposal and loose ideas. Lots of those around.

I think it is pretty likely we will have both. Johnson will push forward no deal brexit, then get voted out after the ensuing chaos in favour of corbyn who will fuck up the economy even further. Yay.

Corbyn.

Brexit. Its effects will be permanent. Corbyn doesn’t fill me with joy, but his primary aim is to tackle the devastation caused by austerity - which sounds like a good idea to me. He’ll also protect the NHS. And he’ll be out or retired after 5 years anyway. Give me ‘chaos’ with Corbyn over Brexit any day of the week.

If we get Corbyn we're stuck with him for the next five years. If Brexit doesn't work out, we can apply to rejoin forthwith.

If Brexit doesn't work out, we can apply to rejoin forthwith.

That's hilarious

“If we get Corbyn we're stuck with him for the next five years. If Brexit doesn't work out, we can apply to rejoin forthwith.“
I’m assuming this is a joke post?

Being anti Israeli government policy is not being anti Semitic

there isn’t one way or another to be anti Semitic you are or you are not you ignore it it or you confront it - he choose to ignore it no better or worse than Boris Johnson

I’m not defending BJ I have stated why I wouldn’t vote for Corbyn and why he will never thankfully be PM

This could have all been stopped if there was willingness to cooperate from all sides of the house but there wasn’t and it expected of the opposition leader to provide an alternative and to provide opposition - he has utterly failed on both accounts so why would I think he could possible lead the country through this

Brexit has been a terrible, terrible, idea and business and it’s not even happened yet. It is fraught with problems and the fallout will last over decades to come.
I’m not frightened of Corbyn. I doubt he himself wants to go on working for much longer. I expect he’s exhausted at his age, from all of this, and would retire if it weren’t for the pressure of having so much renewed support for his party.
My hope is that either Brexit somehow doesn’t happen, some form of deal is reached, even if it has to happen after no deal, Farage and his wicked acolytes fade away, we get back to a sensible political system and eventually a moderate Labour government.
What I think will happen is no deal followed by some sort of botched deal and some sort of Brexit/UKIP assimilation into the Conservative party and general unpleasantness.

I do fear Corbyn but not for the reasons you've listed. It's his apparent inability to tell male and female human beings apart (except when deciding which ones to promote beyond their capabilities or subject to kangaroo court justice) which is a massive red flag for me and most sane people. (Pun intended)

Blue5238, yes that's my biggest fear Brexit and Corbyn together.

I agree- he is a crap leader of the opposition and I have said so from the beginning. That does not mean I think a Labour government is more alarming than the prospect of Brexit.

If Brexit doesn't work out, we can apply to rejoin forthwith
Are you aware of all the oncesdions that have been made to us over the years by the EU? The Euro and rebate for a start? We were in a huge position of power, had major voting and veto rights on the Council,. Not to mention pissing off and insulting or major trading partners by sending morons over to call them the 4th reich and disrespect their anthem. We have decided to throw all that in the bin. All those cannot just then be taken out of the bin, smooth it over and ask for the same rights that took 47 years to negotiate and earn over again.

“I am baffled by the animosity towards him.”
That’s either a lie, or you need to get out more. A lot more.

When I say I am baffled- I suppose I am baffled by the unthinking acceptance of the bullshit written about him in the media and exchanged on forums like this.

And I say that as someone who didn’t and doesn’t want him to be leader.

Thank uou. max - was coming on to say exactly that, Brexit is the start, the umbrella of everything we'd get from Johnson and Cummings.

As I said earlier- I am not a Corbyn fan, to put it mildly. But I am baffled by the animosity towards him.

Bertrand - John McDonnell, the shadow chancellor is quite happy to stand beneath a banner with pictures of Stalin and Mao. Are you really surprised that people fear a prime minister whose cabinet contains supporters of two of the greatest mass murderers of the 20th century? If a Tory stood under a banner depicting Hitler would you be surprised if there was animosity towards him?

Not sure how the two are alternatives - what if we crash out and then we have an election immediately and Corbyn is elected?

Can’t understand the fear that people have been whipped up into regarding Corbyn.
Brexit is a rational fear backed up by experts.

A large majority of those same experts also highlight how Corbyn would be devestating for GDP etc.

You can't ignore on and not the other when it suits your agenda

The proposed private right to buy policy wouldn’t make the property market crash at all. That’s Daily Fail scaremongering. It would give private tenants the opportunity to buy their home and make buy to let unattractive.

So it wasn’t true he supported the mural then?
It wasn’t true about the wreath?
It wasn’t true the party he leads you instructed carter fuck to try and silence whistleblowers?
I look forward to the libel action. I’m sure he’ll donate his damages to a worthy cause. Hamas, maybe?

A large majority of those same experts also highlight how Corbyn would be devestating for GDP etc.

Bullshit. A lot of Corbyn policies are normal for the rest of Europe and Scandinavia. Experts are selectively quoted in the Tory press.

When I say I am baffled- I suppose I am baffled by the unthinking acceptance of the bullshit written about him in the media and exchanged on forums like this

And I say that as someone who didn’t and doesn’t want him to be leader.

Is other people’s non acceptance of him unthinking and buying media stories about him as opposed to yours, which is well thought out and reasoned?

What are your reasons for not wanting him as a leader? And when you say leader do you mean the Labour Party?

I'd rather have Corbyn by a long shot