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BoZo off today to ask Queen to suspend parliament

334 replies

longwayoff · 28/08/2019 10:22

Do we fancy a full on civil war? Have we all gone completely mad? This is democracy? AIBU to say this is several steps too far?

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wowfudge · 28/08/2019 12:01

What an absolute bastard that man is. Incapable of meaningful debate so he seeks to take away the rights of parliament.

SansaSnark · 28/08/2019 12:01

Yeah amazingly Boris Johnson has got me to the point where I'd support Jeremy Corbyn as PM!

Rachelover40 · 28/08/2019 12:01

Frankly couldn't give a f*, a monkey's, or care less.

Politicians these days are a right shower.

MindyStClaire · 28/08/2019 12:02

@Usernumbers1234 I don't think you're grasping my point. Even if no one in GB did so much as raise their voice, a resumption of the Troubles is a civil war in the UK.

We still exist over here, you know.

Graphista · 28/08/2019 12:09

I really am stunned at the sheer stupidity of people STILL thinking Corbyn is worse in the face of a fucking coup and Johnson trying to become a bloody dictator!!

As Iggly rightly says, stop believing the bullshit spin from Johnson and his selfish, could not give a shit about YOU and your loved ones cronies and actually read the Labour manifesto!

If Johnson is allowed to continue on this path he will be the instigator of the demise of the U.K.

As a Scot I am seeing and hearing many calls now for us to declare independence, even from previous "no" voters (of which I am 1).

NI may well not be far behind us from what I'm seeing on SM by NI friends.

If brexiters really think this is in any way acceptable they are crazy!

That said I don't think there will be a major civil war, not in England, Scotland or Wales anyway, if the hot weather continues then yes there is a real possibility of riots and general unrest. Sadly I think we won't see people genuinely motivated to protest until shortages of food and medicine hit them & their loved ones directly and personally and then I suspect that even many previous leave supporters WILL protest and be demanding wtf were Johnson et al playing at!! By which point it'll be too fucking late! - for England at least.

glasshalf · 28/08/2019 12:34

I can't bear it, I can't tell you how worried I am for my children's future!! The people voting for this shower of shit won't be affected long term !! The brexit campaign the biggest lie ever and now he wants to shut parliament out!! Scared doesn't even cut how I feel about it!

ChazsBrilliantAttitude · 28/08/2019 12:43

Great post RedToothBrush

Proroguing Parliament for a few extra days is not unusual, the issue is the timing. Parliament was due to shut down for most of the proposed time anyway for the Party Conference season.

He is clearly trying to limit the already limited time for debate.

justasking111 · 28/08/2019 12:43

The people who may protest/riot do not have to get up feed the kids and get to work. The rest of us will rub along as best we can.

I am old enough to recall the power cuts of the 70`s I had a weekend job and was serving bacon and cheese with candles on the top of the counter. It was not great, sitting in the dark with a torch to read a book, no electricity for hours on end. We used to say a hurrah when the power came back on. Everyone survived no-one died.

My father told me of the cuban crisis he and many others looked at their children helplessly and prayed. What is happening now is nowhere as bad.

lovelookslikethis · 28/08/2019 12:44

Asking people is they 'fancy' a civil war is inciting violence op.

BagpussAteMyHomework · 28/08/2019 12:46

Emergency royal abdication?

whyamidoingthis · 28/08/2019 12:47

@redredrobins - 93 with no signs that she is intellectually compromised. I think we are about to see why a constitutional monarchy is worthwhile.

No, you're not. What you are seeing is that, given you have a constitutional monarchy, you are lucky to have a head of state who is still compos mentis.

You are also seeing the disadvantages of not having a written constitution. If the president of Ireland is asked to sign something or take an action that (s)he believes to be unconstitutional, (s)he will ask for legal advice before taking that action. This has happened a number of times. The president is not put in a position of being screwed if they do, screwed if they don't, which is the position your queen is now in.

Basketofkittens · 28/08/2019 12:49

Second passport at the ready! Thank God DH is a dual national.

A bit worried that the pound will be worthless though.

justasking111 · 28/08/2019 12:52

The pound is at the mercy of the markets a few greedy individuals making a fortune on its rise and fall, the same is happening with the yen at the moment.

mig58 · 28/08/2019 12:52

Our representatives have ignored the clear wishes of the majority of the people for over 3 years. That is the abuse of democracy. Agree with it or not Brexit was voted for only on the basis that the UK would leave. No preconditions, agreements etc. We voted to leave. Most people are aware of the risks but are happy to take them on. If the EU had taken our threats to leave unless there was significant reforms seriously none of us would be facing any of this.

Userzzzzz · 28/08/2019 12:54

This is major. Johnson (who let’s face it has been elected by a tiny number of Tory members and not the country) wants to take power out of MPs hands to do something he knows the house does not support. I suspect there are some very frantic civil servants right not and the Queen’s lawyers will be going into overdrive to work out what best to do. The greatest irony is that by the actions of the hard right, they risk breaking up the union and are also placing the monarchy under constitutional pressure.

BrendasUmbrella · 28/08/2019 12:54

Queen can't really say no can she.. she is supposed to be 'above politics'

Then she can't say yes either. Either way, it's political.

ethelfleda · 28/08/2019 12:54

What a fucking joke. A second referendum is undemocratic, but this isn’t??

GrouchoMrx · 28/08/2019 12:55

We have a joke of a Prime Minister.

The UK is now a joke of a democracy.

Helmetbymidnight · 28/08/2019 12:55

justasking, has m not getting thevpoint of your posts. are you saying no deal brexit is no big deal and we should all shut up and accept it?

53rdWay · 28/08/2019 12:55

But at least we got our sovereignty back! Oh wait.

BrendasUmbrella · 28/08/2019 12:56

Boris is living out his Churchill/Blitz fantasy, and we all sit and wait to see how fucked we will be.

What do you want to bet that he will be heading up a street party on the 31st October with a plastic Union Jack bowler hat on...

justasking111 · 28/08/2019 12:58

Helmet I am saying it is not the worst thing that can happen, I have seen things come and go. What my Father told me about the cuban crisis when he was a dad with two small children and a baby was truly terrifying. Imagine if we were faced today with obliteration because Russia was arming weapons towards us how it would suddenly not matter about brexit. Historically it is all a matter of degree.

justasking111 · 28/08/2019 13:00

Try having a house with 17.5% mortgage interest, that was worrying at the time. But it all settled down eventually.

lovelookslikethis · 28/08/2019 13:01

The Queen has no option but to agree, unless there is a vote of no confidence. That is looking increasingly unlikely now, especially in the time frame.

Notonthestairs · 28/08/2019 13:03

Most people are aware of the risks but are happy to take them on.

Mig58 - Where on earth did you get this from?