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To be outraged and despairing at the emboldened racist idiocy around us these days?

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daffalicious · 24/08/2019 15:02

Today I ran to catch my bus which pulled off as I reached the stop.
Annoying but I was then first alone at the stop waiting for the next. By the time the bus arrived there were other people waiting too but I hadn't paid much attention to anyone as I was first in line near the bus stop post (no shelter).
As I stepped onto the bus a white woman grabbed the hood of my raincoat and yanked me backwards saying loudly 'we queue in this country you know'. I turned completely bewildered and did not see any look of sympathy in the faces of few people gathered.
I was so shocked and said 'what are you talking about I was here first. I missed the last bus' I clearly have an English accent. But all faces remained passive and everyone got on the bus. A young black kid at the back gestured for me to get on before him.
And so then I sat on the bus burning with hot tears and lump in my throat. Wondering what on earth has gone wrong with people in this country. Trying to make sense of it and feeling humiliated and disgusted.
The driver had seen but made no comment or gesture of sympathy.
I am a white English woman in 40s. With dark brown hair no tan at all but have absolutely no idea what nationality the woman assumed I was. I'm horrified at seeing first hand what happens in these situations. Once the woman had spoken to me like that it appeared the other people assumed there was just cause. I was being reprimanded for being a rude foreigner and no one had a problem with it.

I am really upset freaked out and disgusted. I keep thinking imagine if my kids had been with me. It was so humiliating. My heart is racing and I feel nauseous just writing all this.
I feel sick for everyone considered a foreigner. I'm angry that some people seem to have returned to attitudes of the 1970s.
I don't know what to do with all this.
What do mumsnet make of it?

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PurpleHedges · 24/08/2019 21:17

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Plopplop987 · 24/08/2019 21:42

If you think people from other countries do not face prejudice in the UK than please educate yourself
N/c for this
I’m Eastern European and today my next door neighbour shouted “Fucking foreigner, go back to your fucking country” in front of my children. In pretend foreign accent
I dared to ask her to stop smoking cannabis when my children are playing in their garden

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CoolWivesClub2019 · 24/08/2019 21:43

You’ve got some serious issues Purplehedges Hmm

PurpleHedges · 24/08/2019 21:50

CoolWivesClub2019

Yep, I've got issues with racists. And guess who comes out of the woodwork to defend them? Other racists! Maybe you want to work on yourself and those issues, you know. Racism is not a good look for anyone.

CoolWivesClub2019 · 24/08/2019 21:52

Okaaaay.

You’re ranting and I have no idea what you’re on about. But keep going by all means if you’re enjoying 👌🏻

PurpleHedges · 24/08/2019 21:59

I have no idea what you’re on about.

No, you wouldn't. It's called ignorance. You can thank this random internet stranger for trying to educate the stupidity in your posts. 👍

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Chewingbubblegum · 24/08/2019 22:05

Many try to explain away racism as something in the victims mind.

We do not know why this woman thought the OP was not first in line, etc. What we understand from the OP is that this woman told her that "in this country we..." implying that the OP was an unwelcomed and ignorant foreigner who should know her place.

Why are some people trying to explain this away as if racism is rare in the UK?

PurpleHedges · 24/08/2019 22:11

Let's not hurt the feelings of RaCIsTs guuuuys, tHAt's sEXiSt. There are entitled old white women here, who have the right to grab any furrin creature by the hood they want to!! ShockShockShock

CoolWivesClub2019 · 24/08/2019 22:12

Why are some people trying to explain this away as if racism is rare in the UK?

Racism is rife in this country. I just don’t think this is it and find the thread and assumptions being made about the motivations of crazy lady astounding.

IAmALazyArse · 24/08/2019 22:18

I don't want to be pedantic, but we should call things like this the correct way. This was not racist attack, it was xenophobic.

Marriedwithchildren5 · 24/08/2019 22:21

@PurpleHedges you are not defending racism. You are just using other isms to offend other people. You're just as bad.

PurpleHedges · 24/08/2019 22:22

Mmmkay so MNHQ will delete my post because calling a racist bitch an old hag is not allowed but will leave all the goady posts from the racists denying this act of racism? I guess it's like how they leave up all the threads of racists defending golliwogs! Has Mumsnet become a bullshit racist aligned site?

PurpleHedges · 24/08/2019 22:24

I don't care. Delete and report my posts. I'm proud that I stood up to this racist shit. Garbage site, I hope it gets shut down.

DerbyshireGirly · 24/08/2019 22:27

Purely because of how OP has described herself I would be inclined to think that this was a very rude woman using an old fashioned turn of phrase. Not being racist but certainly being unpleasant.

PurpleHedges · 24/08/2019 22:28

Marriedwithchildren5

Shock you mean I'm not going to compliment an old woman who grabs a foreigner by her hood? No, I wouldn't. Just like I wouldn't use niceties to describe someone who attacked another for wearing a hijab.

Oysterbabe · 24/08/2019 22:31

Why are some people trying to explain this away as if racism is rare in the UK?

I guess because they don't think it was anything to do with race. For a start the OP is the same race as her attacker.

SierraNevada · 24/08/2019 22:34

I was called out on being Eastern European without having to say a word. Some of us have got strong facial features I guess,

This is my experience too. I am fair skinned but my features clearly mark my Eastern European/Jewish heritage. Whereas a lot of people from England share my colouring I just couldn’t be mistaken for someone who is ethnically more English.

EnthusiasmIsDisturbed · 24/08/2019 22:35

Mmm I don’t know I think it was just a term nothing more than that

British queue we like to queue in this country it’s a bit of a joke now obsessive we are about this

Her aggression I would be upset by but the comment (and I don’t look particularly white British as I am mixed) I would just take as a phrase used

Marriedwithchildren5 · 24/08/2019 22:40

Since when has racism been about one white woman against another white woman?

You've convinced yourself you've done something amazing today. What you've done is have a bit of a rant on mumsnet on a Saturday night.

PurpleHedges · 24/08/2019 22:46

Marriedwithchildren5

If she grabbed a white-skinned person's hijab or kippah would you be defending that too? Or would that be assault?

EnthusiasmIsDisturbed · 24/08/2019 22:46

Maybe the black kid didn’t think anything and he was just polite and let you in front of him nothing more than that

Marriedwithchildren5 · 24/08/2019 22:52

@PurpleHedges
No. That sounds more like an Islamophobic attack. I don't think you can compare that to pulling a hoody!

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