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AIBU?

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To start using my Dr title everywhere?

508 replies

Fyette · 19/08/2019 18:01

I am 35 years old, but was born with the mixed genetic blessing of always looking far younger than my actual age. I still regularly get asked for ID in pubs and even at the cinema. I have a DD and people tend to assume I am a (very) young mother.

And yes, sometimes this is nice and flattering.

But like all women, and especially young women, I seem to get patronised a lot. I especially notice it at my DDs school (and before that with the HV), or in semi-formal settings.

I have a PhD and have never used my dr title outside of work, because I don't want to seem like a twat, basically. But sometimes I feel seeming like an obnoxious twat might be preferable to having to put up with this general condescension. Perhaps if I start introducing myself as Dr Fyette I will be taken more seriously? AIBU?

(Mind you: I do not think young women without a PhD deserve to be patronised any more than I do.)

OP posts:
Atlasta · 19/08/2019 18:46

Definitely use it. You deserve to.
Really feel for you. I often feel looked down upon in certain situations and am sure if I called myself and signed letters etc as 'atlasta B.A(hons)' certain people would see me differently ( probably as pretentious pratGrin). My DC's school is particularly good at making parents feel like uneducated morons.
If I could use Dr.Atlasta I definitely wouldn't think twice.

Fyette · 19/08/2019 18:46

All right; will do a trial run next time I'm being patronised and accept being a twat in some people's eyes (that's Dr Twat to you). Grin

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Teacakeandalatte · 19/08/2019 18:46

I guess if you are a medical Dr getting harassed to look at people's rash you could claim to be a PhD in something unrelated to get rid of them.

Witchend · 19/08/2019 18:47

Where would you actually use it though? I can't think of anywhere I would introduce myself as Mrs Witchend, so can't think you'd be able to say "Dr Witchend" without shoehorning it into the conversation.

How do you think you could let the other parents know that you're doctor, for example? And if it did change their reaction to you, do you really want such fickle friends?

DH has a DPhil and only uses Dr in work, and that's only because they insist it goes on his card, he would never introduce himself with it.

Jaxhog · 19/08/2019 18:47

If I had a PhD I would be using the title wherever possible.

Absolutely use it! You worked hard for it.

WoollyMollyMonkey · 19/08/2019 18:47

I think a PhD is more entitled to use the dr title than a medic. After all you have had to undertake years of original research to gain yours, a medic just follows a course of study!

DiseasesOfTheSheep · 19/08/2019 18:47

Lots of non-medical academics use their titles. Some people don't like it, others feel differently. The vast majority of PhDs I know use it, and I'm fairly sure it's not just that those I know are particularly bumptious.

longwayoff · 19/08/2019 18:47

DON'T! Everyone you meet will start telling you about their peculiar illness. Or if you must, make clear you're a Dr of X, not medicine, but, if you do that, be aware it may not be as well received as you hope. Congratulations though, lot of work.

Sparklepunk · 19/08/2019 18:48

I am unsure why Dr. Needs to be reserved for those with an undergraduate degree in medicine, since professionals gaining an undergraduate degree in other vocational subjects are also able to use the title. For example vets, chiropractors and dentists. The actual word ‘doctor’ comes from the Latin meaning to teach. The title ‘doctor’ has been used in academia since the 13th century in Europe. PhD holders have made a unique contribution to the field with ‘new’ learning. Undergraduate degrees are underpinned with established knowledge. In the field of medicine and associate healthcare professions, this knowledge will have been rigorously reviewed. Therefore, PhD holders have more than a right to use the title. And it is based on their qualification, any individual who uses Dr. Without a PhD should not use it once they have stopped practising and are not live on their profession register as the title is attached to their previous occupation.

NoTheresa · 19/08/2019 18:48

Dr W Anker is the most fitting title for such an insecure person. 🙂

Lollygaggles · 19/08/2019 18:48

Oh definitely yes use it. And congratulations on earning your PhD

saraclara · 19/08/2019 18:50

Yep, people who insist on the title ALL the time, can be annoying. But I think you're absolutely right to use it when you're being patronised and not taken seriously.
I hope it works! I was still being offered half fare on the bus when I was 20 (the child cut off age was 13). I feel your pain.

NoTheresa · 19/08/2019 18:50

a medic just follows a course of study!

Riiiiiight.

🙄

Hobsbawm · 19/08/2019 18:50

Use it! You've earned it. It's your official title. It's the way you should be addressed. Although you have the right to choose not to use your title, why shouldn't you use it? It's not remotely twatty at all to use your correct title.

It is not actually the correct term of address for a medical doctor, outside of a medical setting, in the UK. A medical doctor uses the term as a courtesy but is not the correct term of address/title for them outside of a medical setting. It is not the correct title at a consultant surgeon. It is the correct title and term of address for someone with a PhD, in and out of work, until/unless they have earned the title Prof. The use as a title for those with doctorates degrees long pre-dates the use for medical doctors.

Anyone who thinks you are a twat for using your correct and earned title is perhaps the twat. Anyone who thinks a medical doctor has more right to use the title doctor lacks knowledge.

If I had a doctorate, I'd use the title Dr. absolutely bloody everywhere!!

BringOnTheScience · 19/08/2019 18:51

Use it!!!!

So, so important for women to bust stereotypes & not be defined by marital status.

growlingbear · 19/08/2019 18:52

All the academics I know really frown upon using it anywhere outside the uni in which they teach. But I agree with others: you worked hard. You earned it. Chuck it at anyone who condescends to you.

Hairydogmummy · 19/08/2019 18:52

Do it! My DH has PhD as do a few friends/colleagues. Use it, you earned it!

Pilchardsky · 19/08/2019 18:54

I'm 42 and in the latter stages of my PhD; believe me, I'll be using it at every opportunity once/if I get it!

PorridgeLove · 19/08/2019 18:56

I would use it. Also when booking flights. Why not? Not to belittle the medical profession, but most PhD degrees require more original research than a GP. I also like it because it is gender neutral and does not carry any connotations about marital status.

Darkstar4855 · 19/08/2019 18:56

I’m a medical doctor. I don’t use the title outside work because it feels a bit wanky.

Fatted · 19/08/2019 18:57

I have a family member very similar to yourself, with a PhD and she looks a lot younger than she is.

She accidentally used the title Dr outside of work once when ordering something. When she opened the door, the delivery person immediately asked for her dad! When she politely said she was the adult of the house, he then asked for her husband. Hmm. When that was declined, he eventually he said he had a parcel for Dr so and so, and was totally shocked to realise this was in fact my relative!!

So I'm not sure how much it would change people's perceptions of you. Surely at work is where it matters most?!

Crinkle77 · 19/08/2019 18:58

Not outside of academic circles i wouldn't.

WhoAmIToTellYou · 19/08/2019 18:59

Use it in professional setting e.g. in your email signature. Using it in everyday life is a) confusing as ppl will think you mean you are a medical doctor b) a bit desperate like that’s the only way you can generate respect.
Just my opinion of course

origamiunicorn · 19/08/2019 18:59

Of course OP! You worked hard for it, use it! Smile

81Byerley · 19/08/2019 19:00

Use it, you're entitled to!