To think if you can't keep your child quiet .....

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Don't come to the pub and ruin it for all the other patrons

Two children behaving beautifully (or as lovely as toddlers can be) one clearly just being a brat

Yanbu
Don't bring your kids to the pub at all in my opinion. Pubs are for adults

Public Houses are not the place for children - if you must drag them out where there is alcohol take them to Hungry Horse or a Charlie Chalk

I agree with you. It's one of the main reasons my husband and I rarely go out to eat. Nearly every time we do someone's poorly behaved child ruins it.

YANBU!

Nothing worse than children making a shit ton of noise in an adult environment. Adults go to the pub to get away from their kids not to be forced to listen to other people’s brats!

HaHa Shoxfordian, you might prefer it that way, but the pubs don't. That's why so many pubs closed before licencing rules were relaxed and why most of those that remain are now "family" restaurants, It's the only way they can survive.

I'm not sure what you can actually "do" to keep toddlers quiet, although I agree that if it's bad enough to annoy others you take them out.

The pubs in this area are full of children. I suppose they’re a bit different to your usual pub and they also say no children past 7pm

But yeh still can be annoying if loud so yanbu about that

Most pubs are family establishments now, which is how they want it...more money that way.

I wouldn't take my kids to a hardcore drinkers' style pub, but your average pub is fair game. They know how to behave though.

Depends on your definition of brat too, I find that varies.

That's why so many pubs closed before licencing rules were relaxed

Rather simplistic given they’re currently closing at a rate of one every 12 hours. For more to do with alcohol pricing and consumer spending patterns than not being able to take kids in.

Hmm, depends what you mean by brat. Normal bit of bad behaviour dealt with appropriately by parents or full scale food throwing/jumping off tables ignored by parents? We eat out (during the day) in pubs sometimes with our three. They all have their moments occasionally but we deal with it and it is how they are learning to function appropriately in society. You can't guarantee that every child will not at some point act like a child. BTW we would never take them to a gastro pub, we stick to Wetherspoons, which are all very family friendly.

There seems to be a lot of judgey-pants threads today.

If you can't handle noise in a pub of all places, home drinking is for you lol.

We often go for a pub lunch with our DS. Last time, a fellow patron was chasing him around the pub, it was hilarious.

Not unreasonable. It’s like a lot of things in this world: the minority ruin it for everyone else. Pubs are meant to relaxed and fun (adult!) rather than kids running around being loud and annoying

I would expect noise from children at a Hungry Horse or Wetherspoons, or any pub with a play area for children. Otherwise they should be encouraged to be quiet imo.

I've seen way more adults behaving badly and noisily in pubs than kids and I have worked in my fair share of "family" pubs with play areas and all sorts.
Banning children was a puritanical hang over and also (I'm sure entirely coincidentally) very effective at keeping the numbers of those pesky women out of pubs.

YANBU

I doubt the one near here would survive without all the day time families rocking up

plunkplunkfizz - it's because the things you mention changed the culture of regulars going for a drink. The pubs had to change their clientele to survive and have found the family market most lucrative, although it is true it's still a difficult market place.

If you can't handle noise in a pub of all places, home drinking is for you lol.

The general hubbub of chatter and clinking glasses is an entirely different matter from someone else’s brats being allowed to run riot lol

Does the pub have high chairs? A changing table in the loo? If so, YABU.

This is why we rarely take our twins anywhere. Both are disabled and I know exactly what will happen, whether they get distressed or I distract them with screens, we’ll be judged by someone.

fellow patron was chasing him around the pub, it was hilarious.

oh dear, one of those parents, on which planet can this ever be remotely "hilarious".

Duchessgummybears, I stopped taking my DC to the local Hungry Horse because of the appalling behaviour of the adults

How are kids supposed to learn how to behave in public if they’re not allowed out until they’re 18? Assuming the adults were doing their best to amuse/control the “brat”, it’s just tough luck. The average pub is hardly a 5 star venue, am sure there are plenty of places you can avoid children if you are that way inclined.

Actually I don't think a high chair or changing table means your child can scream high pitched whilst others are eating

I take my kids to the pub all the time but they are older now, wouldn't have done so regularly at 18m and any screaming and one parent takes them out

It's the same parents who let their child scream through school concerts

If I want to get away from kids there are plenty of places where kids don’t go. Just go to those places, hence my comment. If kids are welcome there, some may misbehave. You don’t know the situation.

It's hard to say with so much missing information.

How old was the child? What were they doing? What were the parents doing (or not doing)?

Somewhere being family friendly doesn’t mean it you can let your child run riot.

We went out for a meal yesterday. Party of 9 including 4 under 10s (two with additional needs) it’s not easy but we work to keep them so others are disturbed.

Yesterday another party where in who were letting their children dance around the restaurant area, shout and scream and generally the parents just weren’t paying attention. When one of the children lay near our table kicking Ds bag (which contained liquid feeds amongst other things) I firmly said “stop that and go back to your table” - and he did! Soon after the children where all sent outside to the play area (while the parents gave me daggers)

I have no issue with noisy children I do have issue with parents not making effort to parent!