To think if you can't keep your child quiet .....

[MozzchopsThirty]

Don't come to the pub and ruin it for all the other patrons

Two children behaving beautifully (or as lovely as toddlers can be) one clearly just being a brat

Oliversmumsarmy
We had similar as children. Northern pubs was kids allowed in the restaurant and specific lounge area until tea time ,no children in the bar area, no children on an evening. Any misbehaving kids meant the family being asked to leave.

Most people are fine about children being out and about in the uk. They are not fine about screaming and poor behaviour.

It amazes me how many of my parent acquaintances take their kids to pubs for lunch regularly- it’s not conducive to a fun time for anyone (kids, parents and other people). I find it baffling:

I think if you are that intolerant of children (young humans who go through behavioural development stages and are known to be noisy on occasion - unpredictable even!) you should definitely stay at home.

It’s just a space usually with comfier chairs than your average cafe. Full of families. The one near us is anyway. And there is pretty much nothing else bar an new empty pizza place.

Probably much less sticky and grim than pubs of the old times.

Many pubs now market themselves as family friendly. I'd rather be with noisy 'badly behaved' children than loud groups of adults. If you don't like being with noisy children go to an adult only pub.
There are so many judgemental people on here. Give the parents a break. All children can be difficult sometimes.

My local pub welcomes children, but has nothing for them to do, so they often cause mayhem running around and around the open plan bar (careering into waitresses tying to serve food). Personally, I reckon if a pub is going to welcome children, they need to make the premises kid friendly - including some play equipment in the garden. At least that way anyone who doesn't want to share pub space with kids knows where to avoid!

I generally avoid the pub at the weekends, and use it during weekday evenings.

I think if you are that intolerant of children (young humans who go through behavioural development stages and are known to be noisy on occasion - unpredictable even!) you should definitely stay at home
That's us told: if you're not willing tolerate badly behaved and disruptive children then stay at home.

Nice to know that passively accepting rude and disruptive behaviour should be the norm.

I always wonder when I see loud, disruptive adults or adults who do nothing as their child kicks off or is excessively noisy were also children who ran riot around the place as kids.

LolaSmiles

We live down south now and it is so much.less restrictive.

We have taken dc to a pub at 10pm just for a drink if we were all awake and fancied going out on a summers evening.

After the incident with the pub I haven't been back to see family since.

Dp occasionly goes on his own but I cannot be bothered with the place.

Shivd it is very conducive to have a nice family meal with someone else cooking, serving and doing the washing up.

Don't know how you think it isn't a pleasant experience

I’m with a pp and find my own children more annoying if they misbehave. They are used to it so pretty good but youngest was off form on holiday so one of us would just leave.

Oliversmumsarmy
Some of our more family friendly pubs (less hungry horse with play area and more chilled out pub food pub) would be happy with family staying for a drink after a meal, but there isn't the culture of taking children to a pub on an evening.

Personally I find the idea of taking children to a pub at 10pm to be bizarre. It's not something I've grown up with and it would never cross my mind to do it.

@DonnaDarko
You might have thought it was hilarious having your DC being chased all round the pub, but did everyone else? I certainly wouldn’t! Take your child to a children’s play centre to do this, not a pub where other people are trying to have a relaxing meal and drink.

I find the worse place for this kind of behaviour is the good old Toby Carvery. We do love a roast, and admittedly it is not the best example of a roast (but it is cheap and quick) but it is always full of those type of families that just let the kids run wild and scream while the parents (usually overweight and dirty looking) stuff their faces. Sorry if this offends anyone but take a look around it amuses us

I was in a local gastro pub yesterday lunch time, having a meal with a group of friends. Unfortunately, our meal was ruined by a couple of approximately 3 year olds running riot, screaming at the tops of their voices. The mothers of the children were completely oblivious to the disruption they were causing to other people just trying to enjoy a quiet meal.
Moral of the story...if you can’t control your little darlings, don’t take them to the pub, go to the park instead.

I really think it depends on what you deem as bad behaviour. We took our 2 year old and 2 week old out a couple of times recently to family pubs for lunch the 2.5 year old sat quietly colouring in, ate his food and was very well behaved as he knows that’s what is expected off him. Obviously the 2 week old is too little to eat etc.

I also have a 7.5 year old who autism and adhd and we only take him out to eat if he is not in sensory overload, it’s a quiet time of day and we have his iPad etc to keep him calm. He sits well generally without technology if it’s quiet but does need the iPad if it becomes busy as he can’t cope with the noise.

I would never dream of expecting other people to listen to screaming etc nor do I tolerate bad behaviour from my children. If I see my oldest starting to go into sensory overload I remove him from the environment as its not fair on him or anyone else.

When I go to a pub,I don't want very young children around me,full stop. I'm not talking about kids of about 12 or 13 plus,I mean toddlers who keep running around screaming while their parents sit there staring at their phones,totally oblivious.

@justrestinginmybankaccount

Are you serious?

You're not being unreasonable. I like to go to the pub now and then, when my health allows, with my husband, for a couple of drinks and a bar meal. We don't go to sports or student bars as they're usually noisy. We want somewhere we can have a good catch up. Kids' screeching noises go right through me and I hate kids running about in case they fall on my walking aids or, even worse, on me.

Pubs are not for kids. Surely even parents want to get away from their kids sometimes.

Fundays12
The crucial part of your situation is that as the parent you do something in response to the behaviour. If you see your child is getting overwhelmed, you don't sit there and do nothing,or ignore them, or allow them to disrupt other people.

Like so many parenta of children with SEND needs, you're reasonable and proactive.

The types of parents who are permissive and allow disruptive behaviour are the people who see their children charging around and ignore them, laugh along, who give tablets out on full volume without headphones, or (more annoyingly) contradict themselves by laughing at the kids whilst saying "eeeh you better stop being naughty otherwise the man will tell you off" (as if the 20yearold behind the bar is going to get into a confrontation with a bunch of rude loud mouths who cba to parent their children)

I don’t think pubs at night are for children but a family friendly one - well it’s full of families during the day

If I had a night out I’d go somewhere else though

What people need to remember is that pubs are adult spaces that children are allowed into even such pubs such as Hungry Horse children should be sat down and not running riot there is people carrying drinks, sizzling hot plates about ect.

People who say well it's just part of going out these days for your kids to run about, annoy people chuck food about, if you think that's ok that says a lot about you. You want people to respect you show some too.

There isn't that many adult only places someone can go in these days please if you are coming in respect the other patrons.

I’m pretty sure many parents would avoid a place like that sounds awful - to Heresme

People who say well it's just part of going out these days for your kids to run about, annoy people chuck food about, if you think that's ok that says a lot about you.
I agree with you. They're the type of people who think anyone taking an issue with Costa being used as a play area should stay at home. Years ago there was a brilliant thread where a few posters resorted to telling people who were in favour of polite noise levels that they clearly hated children and if they wanted to sit silence they should have gone to the library.

Nobody mentioned silence. People felt noise levels should've considerate.

Oh I wondered how long it would be till the more tolerant in Spain/France/Italy was rolled out

I hate that shit. ‘Oh I love it in France where they actually like children’.
I remember sitting one evening in a restaurant in France and we commented that the children were all sat at the table with the parents either joining in the conversation or talking to each other.
The only family where the children were running around were English.

Oh and like fuck will I stay indoors because children like to run around and be noisy and I should just put up with it.
I expect it in the park or in my street where the kids play out. I do not expect it in an adult based pub or restaurant. (My rule is that if it has play equipment or a children’s menu I don’t go).

@Weebitawks
I bet the children in Spain are well behaved though, I doubt they are allowed to run riot screaming at the top of their voices.