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About my children's inheritance?

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BonyPony · 12/08/2019 10:20

My MIL sadly passed away a couple of years ago and left a large sum of money to my husband and kids. My FIL is very into financial management and has virtually total control of the account. We have to get his permission to withdraw any of the money.
FIL has been very generous and paid off our previous mortgage so we could move house. Husband hated the previous home, which increased his grief, stress and anxiety. We were happy to move but are now struggling financially with the bills from the new house. I cannot get this money out of my head. It is way more than I could earn in 10 years and it is just sitting there.
Meanwhile, I have been a full time at home parent for many years but husband is now pressurising me to get a job to make ends meet. I don't want to disrupt our home life, especially when all our financial worries would be solved by husband getting FIL to let him have the inheritance he was given!

Should I give up and get a job or stand my ground and insist husband fight for the money? (Also am I evil?)

OP posts:
PooWillyBumBum · 12/08/2019 11:31

What is the actual deficit you’re facing here? Actually, never mind. Either way my answer is the same - get a job or tighten your belts. No I wouldn’t dip into inheritance for living costs.

AGenericUsername · 12/08/2019 11:32

You can't borrow your DC inheritance! I could be wrong but I'm sure this would be classed as embezzlement. If your FIL is the trustee then he has lawful duties to the will and the children. He has to do exactly what is asked which is what he is doing.

soveryconfused1 · 12/08/2019 11:33

@herculepoirot2

Just because some posters are suggesting night shifts etc, doesn’t mean the OP is going to go for those sorts of jobs.

There’s a vast difference between working 15 hours a week and 40. It’s known as part time work.

But the OP doesn’t seem to even want to do that, preferring to entertain the idea of effectively stealing from her children, which is why she’s being labelled work shy by her own husband let alone strangers on the internet.

If you can afford to be a SAHP then that’s great. But it’s clear that the OP can not afford to be.

Yabbers · 12/08/2019 11:34

I could be wrong but I'm sure this would be classed as embezzlement
You would be wrong.

herculepoirot2 · 12/08/2019 11:34

soveryconfused1

It’s not clear to me at all. I have no idea how much money her DH is choosing to keep in the bank so he can insist on his wife being a cleaner/waitress/lunch supervisor.

Wishihad · 12/08/2019 11:34

Of course he will need to do more. No one said he wont.

However, I don't agree thy 2 working parents can not give their kids enough attention. Of course they can. The fact that some people you know dont know how to manage that, is neither here nor there.

Nor is it excuse to dip into money that belongs to your kids.

I am pretty confident theres very little or none of the DHS money left. That went on the mortgage. And now OP and her husband have taken on a bigger mortgage. Poor decision making.

That's why she wants access to the kids. I am also willing to bet, this is the reason dh has given the control to fil.

OP says they move to help her husbands streaa I am sure he would be less stressed if they could make ends meet, by op getting a job and not stealing from the kids.

LakieLady · 12/08/2019 11:35

*DH and DC are named beneficiaries of a pension.

How does that work, exactly? An amount is paid per month into an account in your FIL’s name?*

Quite.

If the capital was used to buy an annuity, that provides an income for DH and the DCs, where is that income going? Why isn't it going into the family pot to help cover bills?

And I'd take a fair bit of convincing that this is the best thing to do with an inheritance. Annuity rates are poor and the amount will be eroded by inflation.

DSS inherited a fair chunk of money from his GM, which was held in trust with his GF, mother and an uncle acting as trustees. They invested it in property, rental income was also held in trust, and the funds were drawn down for school and uni fees. When he was in his early 20s, he "applied to the trustees" to release the capital so he could buy a house of his own. But none of this money was anything to do with his parents, or GF, they had no claim on it.

I think the OP is perfectly entitled to ask for details about any arrangments made in respect of the inheritance. As a family, they need to do their own financial planning and that includes financial help their DCs might need. And if any of the money is DH's alone, then as his wife, OP has every right to know where they stand.

What isn't all right is for the OP to use any money for the children to avoid going back to work if there isn't enough to go round.

I wonder if money-savvy FIL has tied this all up in a way that protects DH's share in the even of a divorce, or some such?

OP, I'd be asking some very direct questions of your DH, like how much was his inheritance, did it all go on paying off the mortgage, if not, where is it now, how much (if any) is the mortgage on the new house, how is the children's money invested etc. If he doesn't know, or is elusive, you can get a copy of MIL's will from the probate registry (costs about £10).

It sounds to me like you have been sidelined in some important financial decisions, OP.

Zebraaa · 12/08/2019 11:36

@herculepoirot2 but millions of women do it? Not many people have the luxury to be a SAHP whilst their husband works. Most of the women I work with do shifts to fit around their children.
I’m pretty sure most of these women would prefer to do this than be the main full time worker and their husband stay at home.

herculepoirot2 · 12/08/2019 11:36

However, I don't agree thy 2 working parents can not give their kids enough attention. Of course they can. The fact that some people you know dont know how to manage that, is neither here nor there.

I am not going to get into an argument with you about this. I am confident in my thinking on it. I am not trying to offend you.

The point is that the DH is keeping a certain amount of money separate from his family whilst saying they are struggling, and unless I was happy that was the best outcome for my children, I wouldn’t be taking up some of the suggestions on here so he could continue to do that.

Wishihad · 12/08/2019 11:37

I have no idea how much money her DH is choosing to keep in the bank so he can insist on his wife being a cleaner/waitress/lunch supervisor.

This is just ridiculous.

You could also say 'how much dh is keeping for their future and retirement, while op chooses to abdicate all financial responsibility for herself leaving it all to the husband to worry about'

Vasya · 12/08/2019 11:37

I think that I would prioritise saving the money for the children's futures over using it to pay bills now, especially as the children are now all in school and therefore needing less childcare.

It doesn't sound like you would need to work full time - could you find something for 3 days per week? That way you could use wrap around childcare on those days and still have a couple of days per week at home.

The other option is to reduce your outgoings - could you move to a cheaper or more economical house? I know that isn't always an option, but if you're consistently living beyond your means and struggling to stay afloat without borrowing from your kids' inheritance, it might save you a lot of stress.

I think your husband has the right idea here - to preserve your nest egg by having you both in work at the moment to pay bills. Not working is a luxury (not that your life is luxurious as I know you are doing the household management and childcare - but a luxury in the sense of being something not everyone can afford) and if it's not financially possible for your family without eating into inheritance, some compromise will have to be made. It seems to me that you working part time might be that compromise.

Bornfreebutinbiscuits · 12/08/2019 11:38

Being left a pension, wouldn't that be paid monthly rather than lump sum?

BrokenWing · 12/08/2019 11:38

I think the disruption to them of me doing more hours is more harmful than borrowing some money now that I can give them back in a few years when I'll be able to do more hours.

It shouldn't be a loan to pay back if as a family you agree you should be a SAHP and when you should return to work.

This is just showing your financial unawareness, it is not about paying back it is about planning now and the future with the finances you have. Just now your "plan" is to live beyond your means thinking in the future, after possibly a decade out of the job market, you will be able to confidently slot straight back in and earn enough to continue to live beyond your means AND pay back a significant loan. Do you really think that is a viable "plan"?

What harm do you see for your children if you worked proper PT/nearly FT hours. Obviously with your dh being more involved in housework etc? ds absolutely thrived at his afterschool club in primary school most children do. it was just like an extended playtime with all his friends.

herculepoirot2 · 12/08/2019 11:38

@herculepoirot2 but millions of women do it? Not many people have the luxury to be a SAHP whilst their husband works.

I don’t see the relevance in how many women do it. The OP doesn’t think it is the right thing for her family, and up to now her DH seems to have agreed. Not sure what’s changed. If they can afford it and he is just keeping the money back for some unknown purpose, that doesn’t make a lot of sense to me.

Everanewbie · 12/08/2019 11:39

Sooooo...My take.

The money allocated to your children cannot be accessed by you. If you're trying to get at that, even if you intend to pay it back is wrong in so many ways. Not yours. Never yours. If FIL is restricting your access, then I'm glad.

The money allocated to your DH. Well this is yours to access. If you want to get at it, you can, Albeit a joint decision with DH as a married couple. The stuff about work is your lookout, don't listen to folk on here, do what you want to do, as long as you keep your mitts off the money allocated to the children.

soveryconfused1 · 12/08/2019 11:39

@herculepoirot2

The OP’s dh has asked her to take on a job. The op has stated that they are struggling to pay household bills unless they dip into his and their dcs inheritance. This seems pretty clear that she needs to get a job in order to make ends meet.

herculepoirot2 · 12/08/2019 11:39

You could also say 'how much dh is keeping for their future and retirement, while op chooses to abdicate all financial responsibility for herself leaving it all to the husband to worry about'

We have no idea why he is keeping it.

herculepoirot2 · 12/08/2019 11:39

soveryconfused1

It’s not clear to me, as I have said.

Wishihad · 12/08/2019 11:40

I am not going to get into an argument with you about this. I am confident in my thinking on it. I am not trying to offend you.

Because you know someone. Well, karen Matthew's was a sahm that I knew, and her kids didnt fare well. Shall we all judge sahm on that one example?

The OP getting job doesnt have to mean the kids dont get the attention they want.

The point is that the DH is keeping a certain amount of money separate from his family whilst saying they are struggling, and unless I was happy that was the best outcome for my children, I wouldn’t be taking up some of the suggestions on here so he could continue to do that.

The op wants access to the kids money.

Wishihad · 12/08/2019 11:41

We have no idea why he is keeping it.

Exactly. But you are assuming he is keeping it to be a dick. Using phrases like 'forcing her to be cleaner'.

MustStop · 12/08/2019 11:41

If it was gifted in a will your dh needs to have the money/pension, fil could spend the lot. Besides your dh is old enough to manage it, or maybe fil thinks you should get a job and would rely on your kids inheritance rather than work.

Ponoka7 · 12/08/2019 11:41

@PookieDo, those jobs do not exist where i live. I know this because i babysit, or provide wrap around care for Women in all of those job roles, who are desperate for school time hours.

You can finish by 2.30, but they want an 8am start. The evening shifts start at 3pm.

Where are all these jobs in the NHS that you can walk into with no experience? I know people working in Care Homes etc that have been applying for the NHS for years.

I don't agree with using the children's inheritance, though.

C8H10N4O2 · 12/08/2019 11:41

I wouldn’t be taking up some of the suggestions on here so he could continue to do that.

Yes I'd want to know but what the DH is doing with his own inheritance and what he is prepared to contribute workwise to running the home and family.

The OP isn't idle - she is doing the bulk of running the home and family and does have a part time job. If she works longer hours then the DH needs to step up and do his share at home. I also read the OP as her supporting his wish to move as he was "stressed" in the old house.

This is all assuming of course that there is available, accessible work in her area.

From observation of friends who have done the "family responsibilities" for a number of years their DH's rarely step up to do their share when the women take on more paid work.

herculepoirot2 · 12/08/2019 11:42

Because you know someone. Well, karen Matthew's was a sahm that I knew, and her kids didnt fare well. Shall we all judge sahm on that one example?

This is ridiculous and I am not biting.

Wishihad · 12/08/2019 11:42

I don’t see the relevance in how many women do it.

And yet you want to judge what's right by a couple of families you know Hmm