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..to ask all Leave supporters ( and anyone else) to write to their MP and say you will accept an NI only backstop so that we can leave the EU in an orderly way on 31 October 2019?

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bellinisurge · 10/08/2019 18:34

Just that. We could leave on that basis . The EU is up for it. Are you?

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bellinisurge · 12/08/2019 20:11

I think the answer is "the hard way "

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isadoradancing123 · 12/08/2019 20:20

Its not a matter of caring about the D U P its that a deal wont get through parliament as they wont back it

bellinisurge · 12/08/2019 20:23

@isadoradancing123 , I get that. The issue is with a sensible option, like the one I am suggesting, enough Leave supporting Labour MPs may be willing to back it such that the DUP No votes are irrelevant. Corbyn cannot tell his MPs what do to having spent an entire career ignoring what he was asked to do.

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Chocolatepeanuts · 12/08/2019 20:43

@bercows a lots of the minor roads were blown up and barricaded so you could only cross on the major roads.

SistemaAddict · 12/08/2019 21:14

Thank you. I keep meaning t

SistemaAddict · 12/08/2019 21:29

Stupid phone! I keep meaning to get an Irish history book but wouldn't know where to start as don't want one that is too biased either way. I've just spent an hour immersed in the history of the name of Ireland after following links on the border itself. I find it fascinating but get lost in the finer details. I need the KISS guide! Or a step or two up from the KISS guide, I don't want it too simplistic and risk missing importance aspects. I always thought the "correct" name for Ireland was Eire but got bollocked on here once for using it. After my reading tonight I know the history of that too Smile

Bloody Henry VIII is to blame for the start of the friction it seems that extends to modern day. I wonder if true peace and lack of bad feeling will ever be achieved? Not in my lifetime I'm sure but I'd like to think that at some point it will happen.

Someone on here pointed me towards this article which really opened my eyes to the tension that still exists. And there's the Brexiteers prepared to let things boil over again. It scares me so much and I hope people in Ireland know that lots of people here care about them and want to protect the fragile peace.

www.irishtimes.com/life-and-style/travel/ireland/cycling-the-border-2018-at-least-yous-are-prods-you-f-kers-1.3727569?mode=amp

Chocolatepeanuts · 12/08/2019 22:14

Bercow have you seen the Pop goes Northern Ireland series? Now it only begins in the 70s and ends in the 90s but it shows the border crossings and the tension around these, and theres some great footage of yhe Irish and Britsh governments, as well as the needless tit for tat deaths. Its on youtube and i don't think it's biased at all. I found it fascinating as I have vague memories of it all but my parents went to great lengths to shield us from it all at the time.

HappyParent2000 · 12/08/2019 22:15

A deal will never work.

Repeal or no deal. The only two viable options.

SistemaAddict · 12/08/2019 22:20

Thanks, I'll have a look at that. Wikipeadia is a rabbit hole! I've just spent ages reading about the British Empire. Nothing was taught about this at school. I feel very let down by education in terms of history.

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