To wonder why the disappearance of Nora Quoirin....

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Is not getting far more media coverage?

Actually they are saying that police from the UK, France and Ireland were present during the autopsy. So there you go. That's irrelevant - they don't have sufficient medical training.

You don't know who was there and how qualified they were. That's what it says in the news but they may have been part of team of pathologists linked with the police.

@mRex don’t be so fucking ridiculous. That’s like me saying ‘Windrush... Cambridge Analytica... cash for access scandals... gosh, that means every British police officer and medic can’t be trusted.

It’s a total tragedy, but also entirely plausible that a child with disabilities wandering into that environment would quickly become disoriented, scared and unable to know what to do. Just awful.

People seem to just want to find someone to blame. The fact of her going out of a window through her own volition then got lost in the jungle seems unpalatable and hard to accept and it is. I agree.

but it doesn't make it untrue. Its tragic.

It’s so terribly sad. She must have been so frightened 😢

I know @ophelia. Its so horrible but then I think maybe she heard her mums voice at the end and lay down to sleep and passed away.

@Celaeno - no, it isn't. Do some research. The findings may be the full story, or just part of the story, if it was in the UK I'd want a second opinion on the autopsy, so I certainly would when the investigation was done by Malaysian police.

The family have asked for the speculation surrounding her death to end so they can grieve in peace. It's clearly upsetting to them and they are aware of it. Let them be.

Well said noodle

Yes it was on bbc six o'clock news, the family have ask for speculation to end and to be left alone to grieve in peace

With all due respect to the family they should know that humans by nature speculate. They also know that if you are grieving then you are hardly online reading speculation as you will be grieving.

I'm so impressed with her parents - their dignity in not calling press conferences, not slagging off the local police, and demanding an end to groundless speculation about abduction shows what a decent couple they are.

So sorry. RIP Nora.

Poor Nora, just so so tragic.
My first thoughts were that she woke up & realised she was in a strange environment & wandered out in search of her mother .. alot of articles cited she hated not being close to her mother... Poor little pet. I believe the reports, I just don't think she could possibly have been abducted especially with her brother & sister 8 & 12 in the room....
She could have simply just got up to use the toilet & lost her way... Whatever happened I hope her parents get closure. They seem like such a dignified family who truly loved their angel & they deserve their answers

They are so dignified and she looks so well loved. The photo of her cuddling her mum is heartbreaking.

I do wonder if she had a reaction to anti malaria medication, hence her leaving suddenly. They would have had to take some tomgomto malaria, right?

If she is that timid she may have been hiding from the hordes of strangers crying out her name.

With all due respect to the family they should know that humans by nature speculate

That's the spirit! Fuck them, hey? They should know better!

I agree with her parents that lots of questions remain unanswered and not everything adds up. In particular, where were her clothes, why was she not found earlier (is she was in plain sight) and how would she have survived as long as she did if she was on her own as she wouldn't have had water. I hope that when she is brought back to the UK they get the answers they need.

I’m sure the investigation will continue in order to answer as many questions as possible. I disagree that there’s ‘a lot that doesn’t add up’ though. Everything known so far is entirely plausible.

There is no suggestion that Nora was in the location where her body was found. Quite the opposite: it’s been concluded that she was alive for around a week, and would therefore have been moving around and wasn’t in this location when it was searched earlier.

As for removing her clothes...many people have suggested reasons on here... confusion, heat, clothes becoming soiled

And water ... there is water in the jungle.

I entirely understand why her poor parents want to know as much detail as possible about their precious child and what happened. But that’s about needing to know. It doesn’t mean that what’s known so far doesn’t add up.

In fact, the instinct from the search parties to keep looking within a fairly close radius of the resort was absolutely spot on.

It is utterly heartbreaking. I hope the media and conspiracy theorists give them the space they have requested. They have endured so much and have been so dignified throughout.

One of my very close relatives was missing following an accident and was found weeks later. We had no idea they had an accident and they just didn't come home from work one day. It was extremely traumatic. You are in the position where you are forced to reach out to the media to try and find the person you love. Your facial expressions, body language, things you say and do are scrutinised by the police, you are aware you are being watched (if you've done nothing wrong you have nothing to fear but it's still hard). You have no idea what has happened to the person you love and terrible images flash through your mind. Whilst they are missing you have to try and keep the photo and story out there because it is your only hope. When the worst happens you are hounded by the media (all of a sudden large photos can appear on page 1 of the newspaper ironically).

I am so grateful that social media wasn't a thing when we endured the worst weeks of our lives. The things people say. The conspiracies they present as facts. I couldn't imagine our experience being worse than it was until this week when I saw some of the awful things people have been saying on social media - obvious lies and conspiracy theories. As if they aren't going through enough trauma already . I urge people to remember that the family may well read their posts and be further hurt by them. Please be kind and compassionate. Please.

Why do people keep going on about her clothing? She wasn’t fully dressed with lots of layers etc. It’s not like she was wearing jeans, jumper, shoes etc. She was dressed for bed, which was apparently just her underwear or in a sleep shirt. Under the tragic circumstances, it’s not hard to believe that she removed what little she was wearing herself as the days went on.

Yes I hope the media and social media grief vultures can let those Parents alone as they've requested, that would be the decent thing to do

They may never get answers
It’s time to leave them be
I pray for their healing which is
Going to be substantial

Superfudge

You know, you’ve lived it.

Seems to me that some people are equating the parents’ need to know as much as possible about their daughter’s final days, with a suspicion that things are being covered up or that they’re being misled.

I don’t think that’s the case at all. I think it’s entirely natural that the parents want to know as much information as possible, however painful it is to hear. It does not mean though that things ‘aren’t adding up.’
Like I say, everything so far tragically does add up. She wouldn’t have been in the location where she was found for the whole week she was alive. Hence she wasn’t found earlier.

Typically though the worst of the media can’t resist the chance to jump on this and start suggesting that the search parties were incompetent, or there’s some cover up going on- and sadly some ignorant people are taken in by the likes of the Mail and the Sun. It can only make a terrible situation even more distressing for the poor parents

As I said, it seems the search parties were actually completely right in their hunch that Nora was within a fairly close radius to the resort the whole time.

I think it's natural to want to attribute blame but the official explanation seems the most plausible.
I feel so sorry for her family. It's a shame they're asking for an end to speculation whilst her grandfather and the family lawyer are making statements that are feeding the speculation and conspiracy theories. I hope they all manage to find some kind of peace.