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To wonder why the disappearance of Nora Quoirin....

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LEELULUMPKIN · 07/08/2019 12:13

Is not getting far more media coverage?

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OtraCosaMariposa · 07/08/2019 13:03

It is getting coverage. I am certainly aware of it.

BananasAreTheSourceOfEvil · 07/08/2019 13:04

What's particularly upsetting to me (not that all missing children stories aren't upsetting) is the parents' insistence that she would never have wandered off, and the Malaysian police insisting that she has.

They must be going mad trying to convey that they know their child and this is not like her.

Please god there is a happy ending to this.

SayOohLaLa · 07/08/2019 13:06

OP, where I've read this, it has confused me - a news report specifically saying it's not an abduction was released originally, but I think that's now changed? It seems oddly worded that abduction was being so categorically rules out.

TBF though, I'm not sure what news coverage in this country is going to achieve. Surely what is needed is news coverage locally and volunteers to help search for her.

Naughty1205 · 07/08/2019 13:09

I agree with the pp who said there is something off with the reporting? Can't put my finger on it. Can't stop thinking about it either. Heartbreaking for the parents.

jennymanara · 07/08/2019 13:13

This is getting the same coverage as the scarlett case i.e. top news story but not masses of time as there is not a lot to report. When there was more to report the scarlett case got a lot more air time.
I think cases where they could have wandered off always get less coverage at the beginning. I suspect abduction, but equally she could have wandered off.

IAskTooManyQuestions · 07/08/2019 13:14

What's particularly upsetting to me (not that all missing children stories aren't upsetting) is the parents' insistence that she would never have wandered off, and the Malaysian police insisting that she has.

That line of enquiry has changed now...
www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7331667/Fingerprints-jungle-cottage-Malaysia-Nora-Quoirin-disappeared.html

Malaysian police have admitted for the first time that there is a possibility missing British teenager Nora Quoirin was kidnapped, after previously saying there was no evidence of an abduction.

They confirmed today that they had discovered unidentified fingerprints at the jungle cottage where Nora, 15, was reported missing on Sunday and are not 'ruling out a criminal element'.

Her family, who say she has learning difficulties, have repeatedly insisted that she was kidnapped, but police have rigidly stuck to their belief that she left the Dusun resort, 39 miles from Kuala Lumpur, on her own accord and there was no foul play.

Divers scoured a river on Wednesday looking for any clues as they joined a large team hunting for Nora.

Negeri Sembilan deputy police chief Che Zakaria Othman said that a forensic team was analyzing the fingerprints but declined to give any more details.

Police chief Zakaria also clarified that it was the window in the living hall downstairs that was left open, and not the one in the bedroom upstairs where the girl was.

Her siblings were sleeping in another room upstairs.

He declined to say if the window could be open from the inside, saying the investigation was ongoing.

Although we classified this case as a missing person but we are not ruling out any possibility... the scale of investigation and the search and rescue is very big for a small place here,' he told a news conference. He said the investigation includes a possible criminal element.

Zakaria said a special team from the federal police headquarters as well as from the forensics and criminal investigation departments were assisting.

The rescue operation involves more than 200 people working on shifts through the night but police are still clueless as to the girl's whereabouts and are appealing for information, he said.

A local tribe joined rescues on the third day of the search for her.

We still have hope and believe that she is still in the area. There is no information to show that she has left the area,' he added.

The girl's family insisted in a statement Tuesday that they did not believe she just wandered off on her own.

'Nora's family believe she has been abducted,' the statement said. 'We are especially worried because Nora has learning and developmental disabilities, and is not like other 15-year-olds. She looks younger, she is not capable of taking care of herself, and she won't understand what is going on.'

Nora arrived with her family on Saturday for a two-week stay at the Dusun, a small resort located in a durian orchard next to a forest reserve about 39 miles south of Kuala Lumpur.

Some of the girl's relatives were seen trekking at the hill in the search Wednesday. Police blocked access to the resort due to the search operation.

olice have expanded the search to the riverbed at the foothill of the resort on assumption that she could head downhill to try and find water.

Local indigenous villagers and police canine teams have also been deployed to try and track down the girl.

Her anguished grandfather said earlier that she is not in the habit of running off after police insisted she wasn't kidnapped.

Sylvain Quoirin said by phone from Venisy, in north-central France where he is the mayor: 'Nora disappeared in extremely mysterious conditions since she was sleeping in the room with her sister and brother.

'In the morning, the window was open and she had disappeared, whereas after an 18-hour flight and a seven-hour time difference you would sleep soundly and not go for a stroll at night.

'Everyone went to bed tired, and in the morning Nora wasn't there.'

A local tribe joined more than 180 people on the third day of the search and Nora's grandfather is optimistic she will be found.

The Orang Asli people, who have knowledge of the dense terrain, are assisting police as the search widens beyond a seven mile radius.

New photos have revealed the extensive search to find the missing teenager, with police, tribesmen, soldiers and sniffer dogs also joining the hunt.

Divers were seen combing lakes in the jungle near the resort where Nora was last seen.

The teen is the daughter of a Franco-Irish couple who have been living in London for around 20 years.

The family had planned to stay in Malaysia for two weeks, her grandfather said, and Nora was 'absolutely not' in the habit of running off.

This is a young girl with a mild handicap who is rather timid, reserved. She is someone very fearful.'

Quoirin said he understood that the French ambassador had met high-level Malaysian officials over the case.

'I dare to believe that we are going to find her because enormous means have been put in place,' he added.

'Things are being done seriously now.'

The helicopter and more than 180 people from various government agencies searched for her through the jungles near the resort, said senior police official Mohamad Mat Yusop.

'We will do our best and will not give up hope,' he told reporters. 'We feel she did not go far.'

Nora's family have told the Lucie Blackman Trust, a British charity that supports the families of British people who go missing abroad, that they suspect foul play.

The Dusun is a 12-acre (five-hectare) resort in the foothills of a mountain range and next to a forest reserve.

On Sunday morning the teen's family couldn't find her in her hotel room, which had a window open, a relative in France said.

The resort's management said in a Facebook post that its employees were 'extremely distressed and worried' about her disappearance and were assisting in the search.

One of Nora's aunts, Aisling Agnew from Belfast, has set up an online fundraising campaign that aims to help cover expenses of other family members who are travelling to Malaysia to join the search effort.

It comes as relatives lashed out after it emerged that sniffer dogs lost the scent for Nora Quoirin just 100 yards from the eco-lodge bungalow where she vanished on Sunday morning.

Authorities in Malaysia are adamant the British 15-year-old, who has learning difficulties, knowingly ventured out of the rented property that borders thick jungle and got lost.

But her 'increasingly frustrated' family fear she was snatched by a stranger and insist that the police's narrow approach may be hampering the investigation.

Her father Sebastien, who found her bed empty and the room's window open, said yesterday: 'We believe she may have been abducted.'

yolofish · 07/08/2019 13:14

So awful. But I made the mistake of clicking on the BBC news comments on the coverage yesterday, and the armchair detectives were out in full force - horrible people.

Poor girl, poor parents

ThatCurlyGirl · 07/08/2019 13:16

I have to say that when girls who have glamorous pictures on Facebook / Instagram go missing, sites like Mail Online do like to push them high up the homepage and include a million photos of them.

They also do the awful "speaking from their £750,000 home..." reporting when a family in a terrible situation have money, which is horrid.

I really hope she is ok, I can't begin to imagine how worried her poor parents are.

scarbados · 07/08/2019 13:17

It seems to be getting coverage in all the usual places - press, tv and internet. If nothing happens, there's nothing new to report. And as it's so far away, those of us in the UK can't be joining in searches for her.

I'm not sure how much coverage it could be getting, TBH.

jennymanara · 07/08/2019 13:20

That is true thatcurlygirl. Because glamorous looking girls with photos that can easily be pulled off social media by any journalist is easy news.

Vilanelle · 07/08/2019 13:23

same could be said about Leah Croucher

lavenderbluedilly · 07/08/2019 13:28

I thought the same. I just had a quick look on the BBC news home page, can’t even see the story Sad

endofthelinefinally · 07/08/2019 13:28

£750K = a 3 bed semi in many parts of London.
Completely irrelevant in this case.

I lost sight of my child on a beach many years ago. Only for about 10 minutes, but I was absolutely distraught. I still get upset thinking about it. Those poor parents.

ThatCurlyGirl · 07/08/2019 13:30

@endofthelinefinally

£750K = a 3 bed semi in many parts of London. Completely irrelevant in this case.

Sorry in case it wasn't clear I totally agree it's totally irrelevant in every case of a missing person, I just meant it's something the press often do which is horrible.

endofthelinefinally · 07/08/2019 13:34

Yes ThatCurlyGirl
I was agreeing with you. Sorry if that wasn't clear.

Nicknacky · 07/08/2019 13:37

Abduction doesn’t sound that likely, reading the article she was asleep in the same room as her siblings and it would be extremely difficult to abduct a 15 year old quietly.

And unidentifiable fingerprints won’t be unusual unless they are in a place where you wouldn’t expect them. For example I dealt with a housebreaking where it was clear finger prints were left from the outside pushing the window up .

ThatCurlyGirl · 07/08/2019 13:40

Thank you @endofthelinefinally I panicked then that it sounded like I was condoning it when it's disgusting - glad people agree Thanks

LEELULUMPKIN · 07/08/2019 13:43

That article actually contradicts itself. It says "Her siblings were sleeping in another room upstairs" Yet further down her Grandfather states that they were in the same room.

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bluegirlgreen · 07/08/2019 13:45

@LEELULUMPKIN

What are you on about? It's getting LOADS of media coverage. Confused

You must keep missing the news.

Nicknacky · 07/08/2019 13:47

Even if they weren’t in the same room, it would still be difficult to do quietly.

I don’t think she has necessarily “ran away” but more likely she has went out and got lost/hurt.

Lilyannarose · 07/08/2019 13:51

It's hit home with me for the same reason OP.
I have an 8 year old with Down's.
It's heartbreaking. I just can't imagine.

jennymanara · 07/08/2019 13:51

If she is naive, she might have arranged to meet someone. But yes easy to think you will go for a walk because you can't sleep, and get totally lost. Or even see an animal and think you will follow it for a better look and get lost.
She certainly was not physically dragged out.

There have been cases in the past where teenagers behave in ways that parents say they wouldn't. Sometimes people do surprising things.

MarriageOfPigaro · 07/08/2019 13:55

According to her parents, she's so timid she wouldn't even go into her garden at home without her mum.

My son is autistic and I've no idea if he would even make a noise if someone tried to take him. I think he'd stay silent. That haunts me, as does Nora's story.

CarolDanvers · 07/08/2019 13:56

I get what you're saying OP. Her disappearance is being covered but not with the same sense of urgency and concern that disappearances of other children have attracted. It could be that people just aren't as shocked because she's a teenager and it's far away in a country many people wouldn't be familiar with. I'm not sure. I have a early teen dd with additional needs who wouldn't be able to cope or understand and I am cold just thinking how frightened this poor girl must be.

threemonthstogo · 07/08/2019 13:58

I'm in a journalist and the outlets where I work have covered it every day this week, whenever there has been a development to report.

I think initially it wasn't clear what was going on, but I don't think it's true that it's not getting much coverage.

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