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MIL issue - have upset DH

138 replies

JuststopMIL · 04/08/2019 11:04

I should preface this with the fact that I know I’m really lucky to have a MIL who welcomed me into their family with open arms and judging by some of the stories on here I could have done much much worse.

My MIL is v loud and often says the wrong thing in social settings. As a result she doesn’t have a particularly big social group, so I find that she’s a little overbearing with me. I know DH gets upset for her that she isn’t included in things socially, so I try to make an effort to include her where I can. She lives around 1.5 hours away, and I find when I include her, she uses this to turn one invitation into a whole week or weekend of festivities (‘MIL’-fest as I’ve referred to it with my friends).

For example, for my birthday, a few friends, my mum and aunt went to a city 45 minutes away for a meal. I invited MIL - as it was 45 minutes the wrong way, she’d have been over 2 hours from home. My friends and I (so excl mum, aunt and MIL) were staying with a friend in the city we’d been in - I explained that a few of us were staying with a friend, but she wasn’t able to host any more, but I’d arranged for DH to collect her after the meal and bring her back to ours, where she could stay and then head home in the morning. I felt like this was a nice way to include her for the evening!

The week of my birthday, she then phones upset because ‘every single hotel in the city’ (where DH and I live) was booked for the evening before the meal so she’d need to stay with us the night before (the Friday when the meal was Saturday). I clarified that we wouldn’t be meeting until around 5pm on the Saturday so there really is no need to stay over the night before (not pointing out that it’s massively unlikely that every single room in the large city where we live is booked). She got upset, so we eventually settled on DH and I meeting MIL for dinner on the Friday while she stays in her magically free hotel room that we explained that she didn’t need.

The following day I knew she’d call in the morning to ask what we’re doing in the day (nothing - you weren’t invited), so I made a hair appointment and escaped the house, leaving DH to field her calls. The meal was fine - she said some v inappropriate things but I expect it from her and my mum and friends were understanding, until DH texted me saying that MIL told him not to worry about collecting her and we’d figured it out so she could stay. I texted DH back saying that was untrue, and she would still need collecting. When I asked her what had happened she say it was a miscommunication (I later checked the text and it absolutely wasn’t). DH collected her and she went home.

The following day my friends and I spent the morning shopping in the city we’d been to, heading home around 4pm. When I arrived MIL was still there, wanting my friends and I to go out for dinner with her. I had to leave the house at 5am the following day, so I sent my friends home, thanked MIL for coming but explained I needed to get organised for the week (I was away for the week with work so needed to pack). She kept insisting that we’d just go for one drink and then she’d just stay for one coffee, so I went upstairs to shower and left DH with her until she left.

In a few weeks DH and I are hosting a small celebration and I’ve told DH to invite MIL, on the understanding that she arrives at the start of the party and leaves at the end (MIL doesn’t drink and the party is midday until mid-afternoon so there’s no reason for this to cause an issue). Already I have texts that she should stay the night before to ‘help’ on the morning and the following day to clean up. I told her that isn’t necessary and she’s just invited to the party. She kept pushing back, so I asked DH to speak to her. He must be feeling worn down and embarrassed, and he was reluctant to speak with her. I calmly explained that when an afternoon long invitation repeatedly turns into a weekend long commitment, it makes me less likely to invite her in the first place and if this doesn’t stop then she’s not invited. He’s upset that he’s stuck in the middle of this between me and his mum - he doesn’t want her to be uninvited but she’s absolutely relentless and when told not to come the day before and after will appear anyway.

Would I be unreasonable to uninvite her to this and future events until she understands that an invitation to one meal isn’t free reign to take over an entire weekend?

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Stressedout10 · 04/08/2019 11:09

Ywnbu

hammeringinmyhead · 04/08/2019 11:10

I have a few questions. Does MiL live alone? Has she driven away her own friends by being inappropriate?

I think it's nice you are inviting her to things but honestly your only option (DH's really) is to be firm even when she gets upset. E.g. no you can't stay the night before the party, she gets upset, don't then say ok, you can stay Friday but not Saturday night.

Gelpens · 04/08/2019 11:11

I don't think you're being completely U but I feel really sorry for her.

hammeringinmyhead · 04/08/2019 11:13

And if she does turn up the night before uninvited, don't answer the door!

Disfordarkchocolate · 04/08/2019 11:15

I feel sorry for her because fairly socially awkward, however, she will drive away your friends if you're not careful. Good luck.

Oysterbabe · 04/08/2019 11:15

How often do you see her?

Freddiefox · 04/08/2019 11:15

I feel sorry for her, but I also think you are very kind and tolerant.

Gregoire · 04/08/2019 11:16

I also feel sorry for her, but you definitely aren't being unreasonable! Your DH really does need to push back on this. Try to reassure him that while it might cause short term upset it will lead to a healthier balance in future. You sound really nice and accommodating, so don't feel that you aren't being kind or welcoming.

JuststopMIL · 04/08/2019 11:16

@hammering she lives with her DH, but he has a v active group of friends so he’ll often be away for the day. He often just does what she wants to keep her happy even at my inconvenience.

I don’t think she ever really clicked with a social group so I don’t think she’s ever really had friends to drive away. My issue isn’t so much with her being inappropriate (it’s something that I’ve learned to live with and the people around me are understanding).

I find that DH is the one always keen to find a compromise. She’ll also make up strange stories about why she needs to stay an extra night (she once needed to stay because she needs me to see what she wants to wear and then if I don’t like it she needs a day to find something else - I’ve never cared even slightly about what she’s wearing). Ultimately we can’t stop her staying in a local hotel if she wants - but you’re right we could stop incentivising it by agreeing to dinner!

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AnneLovesGilbert · 04/08/2019 11:18

I feel really sorry for her.

Why? She’s loud, inappropriate, rude, pushy, doesn’t respect boundaries, and tells bare faced lies to try and get her own way.

Was DH not annoyed she lied about not needing a lift OP?

The fact that she’s driven away the friends she used to have is not your problem, it’s clear why it happened. Not your job to now compensate for her lack of a social life is down to her own behaviour.

ohcanada · 04/08/2019 11:19

I'm not sure if I'm reading correctly but if you told her that she was just to come for the party and then to leave then I think you did the right thing. It's fine to set boundaries for social events.

Doesn't mean that you won't spend the weekend with her in future, but on this occasion you can be clear that it's just this event and no overnight stays. She should be able to understand this, especially as you keep including her.

AnneLovesGilbert · 04/08/2019 11:20

X post on the friends thing.

She’s hardly living without human interaction if she has a husband.

KnitFastDieWarm · 04/08/2019 11:20

When you say ‘inappropriate’ what kind of things do you mean? Slightly odd, or actively offensive? That would affect my perspective!

ohcanada · 04/08/2019 11:21

Or yes, as you said, just stop agreeing to the additional events she adds on. Doesn't mean you won't ever do it, but if it's not convenient then you're under no obligation to agree.

JuststopMIL · 04/08/2019 11:21

@AnneLovesGilbert DH knows what she’s like (which is why he texted me to check) - I’m sure he gave her a talking to in the car on the way back but he was more embarrassed and apologetic that once again she’s lied and created a strange story to shoehorn herself into something

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Coffeeandchocolate9 · 04/08/2019 11:23

She doesn't have friends for a reason.

JuststopMIL · 04/08/2019 11:23

@KnitFastDieWarm more strange and slightly insensitive. For example, recalling the details of a colleague’s abortion during dinner, when we were discussing another friend’s pregnancy and her story wasn’t really relevant. Nobody was offended but it definitely brought down the mood!

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wineandroses1 · 04/08/2019 11:23

If MIL is travelling 1.5hours each way, it’s a bit of a trek to arrive and leave on the same day. Perhaps for the small celebration she could stay over that Saturday evening rather than having to travel home again? If you make sure you have something arranged for the next day, that requires you to leave early, then it will be clear she will need to go home, you might be able to manage the time she is with you. I sympathise with you as she is clearly trying to push the boundaries of her involvement in the events that you are kind enough to invite her too, but it’s a bit sad that she is obviously lonely. You may have no choice other than to limit her visits to those where an overnight stay works for you.

KnitFastDieWarm · 04/08/2019 11:25

@JuststopMIL ooff that’s a mood killer! Shock
Did anyone say anything? It might be kinder, if she means well, to say ‘I don’t think that’s the best thing to discuss now because it might upset so and so’

Sparklypen · 04/08/2019 11:26

she lives with her DH, but he has a v active group of friends so he’ll often be away for the day. He often just does what she wants to keep her happy even at my inconvenience.

Seems like your MIL's husband has set down his own boundaries... you / your husband need to be allowed to set you own. Your DH just needs to explain that you like your own space and that coming early / staying over is not needed or wanted.

hammeringinmyhead · 04/08/2019 11:26

I see - I think if she lived alone I would be more sympathetic but really she needs to sort out things to do locally if her actual problem is that her DH doesn't include her in things. Not assuming l, but if you were to have children (you don't mention any) you would find her volunteering to stay and help whether you wanted her to or not.

Idontwanttotalk · 04/08/2019 11:26

I don't think you should uninvite her but you need to be assertive and tell her again that she cannot stay overnight the day before and the day after.

She sounds very manipulative (from the lie she told to your DH in the text). I would explain that all invitations to stay in your home will be initiated by you or DH within exception.

Don't invite her to so many events in future and, if she brings up the subject, tell her the truth.

JuststopMIL · 04/08/2019 11:27

@wineandroses1 this has been my attitude in the past and how we’ve managed to set this expectation of overnight stays on every visit, but I find whenever I agree to one thing there will be something else (once I agree to Saturday night, there will be a reason why she needs to stay until Sunday evening or Friday night) - which is why I want to put by foot down on this occasion. If the travelling isn’t convenient for her then she isn’t obliged to come - it’s not a big family party!

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AnneLovesGilbert · 04/08/2019 11:28

Seems like your MIL's husband has set down his own boundaries... you / your husband need to be allowed to set you own.

Yes, good point.

tobedtoMNandfart · 04/08/2019 11:29

Be her DIL. Not her friend.

Stop facilitating her social life that's not your job.

Let all contact go through DH.

Boundaries.

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