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MIL issue - have upset DH

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JuststopMIL · 04/08/2019 11:04

I should preface this with the fact that I know I’m really lucky to have a MIL who welcomed me into their family with open arms and judging by some of the stories on here I could have done much much worse.

My MIL is v loud and often says the wrong thing in social settings. As a result she doesn’t have a particularly big social group, so I find that she’s a little overbearing with me. I know DH gets upset for her that she isn’t included in things socially, so I try to make an effort to include her where I can. She lives around 1.5 hours away, and I find when I include her, she uses this to turn one invitation into a whole week or weekend of festivities (‘MIL’-fest as I’ve referred to it with my friends).

For example, for my birthday, a few friends, my mum and aunt went to a city 45 minutes away for a meal. I invited MIL - as it was 45 minutes the wrong way, she’d have been over 2 hours from home. My friends and I (so excl mum, aunt and MIL) were staying with a friend in the city we’d been in - I explained that a few of us were staying with a friend, but she wasn’t able to host any more, but I’d arranged for DH to collect her after the meal and bring her back to ours, where she could stay and then head home in the morning. I felt like this was a nice way to include her for the evening!

The week of my birthday, she then phones upset because ‘every single hotel in the city’ (where DH and I live) was booked for the evening before the meal so she’d need to stay with us the night before (the Friday when the meal was Saturday). I clarified that we wouldn’t be meeting until around 5pm on the Saturday so there really is no need to stay over the night before (not pointing out that it’s massively unlikely that every single room in the large city where we live is booked). She got upset, so we eventually settled on DH and I meeting MIL for dinner on the Friday while she stays in her magically free hotel room that we explained that she didn’t need.

The following day I knew she’d call in the morning to ask what we’re doing in the day (nothing - you weren’t invited), so I made a hair appointment and escaped the house, leaving DH to field her calls. The meal was fine - she said some v inappropriate things but I expect it from her and my mum and friends were understanding, until DH texted me saying that MIL told him not to worry about collecting her and we’d figured it out so she could stay. I texted DH back saying that was untrue, and she would still need collecting. When I asked her what had happened she say it was a miscommunication (I later checked the text and it absolutely wasn’t). DH collected her and she went home.

The following day my friends and I spent the morning shopping in the city we’d been to, heading home around 4pm. When I arrived MIL was still there, wanting my friends and I to go out for dinner with her. I had to leave the house at 5am the following day, so I sent my friends home, thanked MIL for coming but explained I needed to get organised for the week (I was away for the week with work so needed to pack). She kept insisting that we’d just go for one drink and then she’d just stay for one coffee, so I went upstairs to shower and left DH with her until she left.

In a few weeks DH and I are hosting a small celebration and I’ve told DH to invite MIL, on the understanding that she arrives at the start of the party and leaves at the end (MIL doesn’t drink and the party is midday until mid-afternoon so there’s no reason for this to cause an issue). Already I have texts that she should stay the night before to ‘help’ on the morning and the following day to clean up. I told her that isn’t necessary and she’s just invited to the party. She kept pushing back, so I asked DH to speak to her. He must be feeling worn down and embarrassed, and he was reluctant to speak with her. I calmly explained that when an afternoon long invitation repeatedly turns into a weekend long commitment, it makes me less likely to invite her in the first place and if this doesn’t stop then she’s not invited. He’s upset that he’s stuck in the middle of this between me and his mum - he doesn’t want her to be uninvited but she’s absolutely relentless and when told not to come the day before and after will appear anyway.

Would I be unreasonable to uninvite her to this and future events until she understands that an invitation to one meal isn’t free reign to take over an entire weekend?

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JuststopMIL · 04/08/2019 11:29

@hammeringinmyhead I’m expecting DC1 (early days yet) - another reason why I’m keen to nip this in the bud now before I’m on mat leave and she’s not restricted to weekends any more!

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7yo7yo · 04/08/2019 11:30

Your DH needs to make it clear that if she doesn’t arrive and leave when Invited that the invitations will dry up.
I’m all for flexibility but she sounds like give her an inch and she’ll take a mile! So don’t even give her that inch.
And she is HUGELY insensitive.
Imagine discussing someone’s pregnancy and she’s talking about miscarriage, I’d be upset and offended.

tobedtoMNandfart · 04/08/2019 11:32

She's an adult. And she is behaving very rudely. Totally unreasonable to expect to stay all weekend when you are then away all week with work. You may have to spell out to your DH the impact this will have on your marriage long term. He should have your back on this.

In the inimitable words of a previous thread he needs to 'take his balls out of his mothers handbag' Grin

AngelasAshes · 04/08/2019 11:32

I don’t think you are being entirely unreasonable. Only U bit is having DH deliver an ultimatum. If you’re going to go down the route of don’t even suggest adding activities with me to an invite or you’ll never be invited again, at least have the balls to tell that to MIL yourself.

I wonder if MIL is desperately lonely for female interaction. Being alone with a DH is all well and good but female friendship is also very important to mental health. Her actions are unreasonably needy so she seems desperate to me.

If you can, maybe encourage her to work on social inclusion in her area like a gardening club or yoga class or women’s institute.

sophiestew · 04/08/2019 11:33

I think I would stop inviting her so often.

JuststopMIL · 04/08/2019 11:33

@KnitFastDieWarm I did interrupt her story at the time and gently suggested that its not the right time, she was visibly upset and went v quiet for a while before piping back up with another anecdote which was non-offensive but still entirely off topic (and v specific to something she does so not as if we could all pipe in). It can be really painful to watch as the table falls into silence afterwards.

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MorrisZapp · 04/08/2019 11:35

My mum does this too. She won't leave after any meet up or visit, forcing others to shuffle about awkwardly saying 'bye then'. She also uses any tiny reason to say come earlier, stay later, let's meet up to discuss this, let's have coffee, wine, dinner etc etc etc.

I do like seeing my mum but I'm busy and wish I could just meet her then say cheerio like normal people. She just walks along with me and says what are you doing now etc.

It's a shame but ultimately I don't invite her to as many things as I might otherwise do if it wasn't so awkward at the end.

JuststopMIL · 04/08/2019 11:36

@tobedtoMNandfart DH does put his foot down when I ask him to (this is a years long ongoing issue). I think this time he’s at the end of his tether and realises that his DM won’t change her behaviour and he doesn’t want every invitation to be a week long battle. 99% of the time when his DM is overstepping the mark he has dealt with it!

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Prawnofthepatriarchy · 04/08/2019 11:36

I don't think you've said how old she is or her state of health, but I'm early 60s and would find a 3 hour trip there and back to a party in one day too much.

I'm not surprised she feels the need to stay the Saturday night, though it wouldn't have to be at your house as you've made it clear she could afford an hotel (I couldn't).

MorrisZapp · 04/08/2019 11:37

She also does the difficult anecdote/atmosphere bring down thing. If only she didn't do this, she'd get so many more invites. Aaargh.

AngelasAshes · 04/08/2019 11:37

I disagree with putting the DH in the middle of this. This is purely a MIL to DIL relationship issue. They’re both adult women, they don’t need to drag him in and make him choose sides.

JuststopMIL · 04/08/2019 11:38

@AngelasAshes it’s not necessarily her suggestion that’s the problem (I expected it anyway) - it’s the pushing back time after time for a week that makes we want to uninvite completely. If she asked if she could stay to help and I told her no thank you and we just moved on, I’d love to include her.

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Prawnofthepatriarchy · 04/08/2019 11:40

However if I couldn't manage the round trip in a day and wasn't invited to stay over I would just thank my son for the invite and refuse it politely. I definitely wouldn't try to guilt trip my hostess.

JuststopMIL · 04/08/2019 11:43

@AngelasAshes I have tried to deal with this directly with MIL in the past, but she immediately went to DH really overexaggering the conversation and making out that I’d been rude. DH understood that was unlikely to be the case, but I’m reluctant to put myself into the situation where she sobs about how mean I am to any relative that will listen!

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wineandroses1 · 04/08/2019 11:44

MorrisZapp have you ever had a conversation with your Mum about it? I can imagine that would be a very awkward conversation, but she needs to be told when she can arrive and when she needs to leave, given that she is ignoring the messages . I think I’d try to tell her.

AnneLovesGilbert · 04/08/2019 11:44

Congratulations OP Smile

Now is the time to start pushing back and making your perfectly reasonable boundaries very clear. At this rate she’ll try to insist on moving in “to help” and you’ll be stuck with her when DH is at work and you’re wrangling a newborn and your tolerance will be lower than usual and you’ll snap.

JuststopMIL · 04/08/2019 11:46

@Prawnofthepatriarchy I agree entirely that 3 hours of driving is a big ask (she drives long distances as part of her job so I don’t think this is the case but wouldn’t like to assume) - it’s unfortunate because I’d accept the point that it’s a long way if it wasn’t for how frustrated I was after my birthday weekend! Ultimately neither of us are moving any time soon so I need to put my foot down eventually. If it was an important occasion and a big family thing of course I’d try to make it easier.

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JuststopMIL · 04/08/2019 11:47

@MorrisZapp sorry to hear that - it’s so frustrating isn’t it! I hate having to pre-empt what her excuse will be to extend the invitation and make sure I have something planned - she’d be invited way more often if I knew it would just be for lunch / coffee / whatever.

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JuststopMIL · 04/08/2019 11:52

Thanks @AnneLovesGilbert it’ll be a few weeks before family know, so this might be my last opportunity to put my foot down! Sad to think I’m already bracing myself for all the ‘offers’ of help and coming up with ways to deal with it. I’ll just snap if I have to!

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Morgan12 · 04/08/2019 11:55

What is the event? Why is your FIL not also coming for the afternoon?

JuststopMIL · 04/08/2019 11:58

@Morgan12 it’s a baby shower for a relative of mine (I’m hosting because she lives v far away from a lot of relatives), so not weird that FIL wouldn’t be invited. She knows my family well (and I checked with my relative that she’s happy for me to invite her), but as it’s not her family I don’t think it’s necessary for me to bend over backwards to facilitate her.

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cottonwoolsnowmen · 04/08/2019 12:02

she’d be invited way more often if I knew it would just be for lunch / coffee / whatever.

How well is she likely to cope with having this spelled out to her?

CheeseCakeSunflowers · 04/08/2019 12:03

I'm late 50's and would think nothing of driving 90mins each way for a day outing, needing to stay overnight for that distance seems odd to me. My suggestion would be to invite her at the last minute. If the event starts at midday Saturday invite her around teatime Friday. She might complain it's too short notice but it's better than no invite at all.

31RueCambon · 04/08/2019 12:04

You are a kind person obviously. I also find it really hard to establish a boundary in these situations. No advice, but you are the 'victim' of not asserting a boundary here.

JuststopMIL · 04/08/2019 12:05

@CheeseCakeSunflowers that’s a good idea! The less time she has the less time she’ll spend backwards and forwards manouvering herself into other plans.

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