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MIL issue - have upset DH

138 replies

JuststopMIL · 04/08/2019 11:04

I should preface this with the fact that I know I’m really lucky to have a MIL who welcomed me into their family with open arms and judging by some of the stories on here I could have done much much worse.

My MIL is v loud and often says the wrong thing in social settings. As a result she doesn’t have a particularly big social group, so I find that she’s a little overbearing with me. I know DH gets upset for her that she isn’t included in things socially, so I try to make an effort to include her where I can. She lives around 1.5 hours away, and I find when I include her, she uses this to turn one invitation into a whole week or weekend of festivities (‘MIL’-fest as I’ve referred to it with my friends).

For example, for my birthday, a few friends, my mum and aunt went to a city 45 minutes away for a meal. I invited MIL - as it was 45 minutes the wrong way, she’d have been over 2 hours from home. My friends and I (so excl mum, aunt and MIL) were staying with a friend in the city we’d been in - I explained that a few of us were staying with a friend, but she wasn’t able to host any more, but I’d arranged for DH to collect her after the meal and bring her back to ours, where she could stay and then head home in the morning. I felt like this was a nice way to include her for the evening!

The week of my birthday, she then phones upset because ‘every single hotel in the city’ (where DH and I live) was booked for the evening before the meal so she’d need to stay with us the night before (the Friday when the meal was Saturday). I clarified that we wouldn’t be meeting until around 5pm on the Saturday so there really is no need to stay over the night before (not pointing out that it’s massively unlikely that every single room in the large city where we live is booked). She got upset, so we eventually settled on DH and I meeting MIL for dinner on the Friday while she stays in her magically free hotel room that we explained that she didn’t need.

The following day I knew she’d call in the morning to ask what we’re doing in the day (nothing - you weren’t invited), so I made a hair appointment and escaped the house, leaving DH to field her calls. The meal was fine - she said some v inappropriate things but I expect it from her and my mum and friends were understanding, until DH texted me saying that MIL told him not to worry about collecting her and we’d figured it out so she could stay. I texted DH back saying that was untrue, and she would still need collecting. When I asked her what had happened she say it was a miscommunication (I later checked the text and it absolutely wasn’t). DH collected her and she went home.

The following day my friends and I spent the morning shopping in the city we’d been to, heading home around 4pm. When I arrived MIL was still there, wanting my friends and I to go out for dinner with her. I had to leave the house at 5am the following day, so I sent my friends home, thanked MIL for coming but explained I needed to get organised for the week (I was away for the week with work so needed to pack). She kept insisting that we’d just go for one drink and then she’d just stay for one coffee, so I went upstairs to shower and left DH with her until she left.

In a few weeks DH and I are hosting a small celebration and I’ve told DH to invite MIL, on the understanding that she arrives at the start of the party and leaves at the end (MIL doesn’t drink and the party is midday until mid-afternoon so there’s no reason for this to cause an issue). Already I have texts that she should stay the night before to ‘help’ on the morning and the following day to clean up. I told her that isn’t necessary and she’s just invited to the party. She kept pushing back, so I asked DH to speak to her. He must be feeling worn down and embarrassed, and he was reluctant to speak with her. I calmly explained that when an afternoon long invitation repeatedly turns into a weekend long commitment, it makes me less likely to invite her in the first place and if this doesn’t stop then she’s not invited. He’s upset that he’s stuck in the middle of this between me and his mum - he doesn’t want her to be uninvited but she’s absolutely relentless and when told not to come the day before and after will appear anyway.

Would I be unreasonable to uninvite her to this and future events until she understands that an invitation to one meal isn’t free reign to take over an entire weekend?

OP posts:
LifeofRye · 05/08/2019 20:28

My MIL is similar. She's socially a bit awkward (talks over you, doesn't listen, tells irrelevant and boring stories then goes off on a tangent...and by far the worst, ever so slightly racist comments, too).

She likes to shoehorn herself in. Example, I invited her to visit for lunch and she turned up with luggage. LUGGAGE. "Oh I'll just stay a night or two." Uh no, no you won't.

Luckily my DH is more than happy to be blunt - which is the only language she understands - and we have set boundaries now. She will still try and push it though...

Winterlife · 05/08/2019 20:28

I wouldn't rescind the current invitation, and wouldn't put DH in the middle of it. I would, however, minimize future invitations.

callmeadoctor · 05/08/2019 20:42

Does you DH invite your dad to things like this?

TowelNumber42 · 05/08/2019 21:14

This cat and mouse nonsense has to stop.

it’s the pushing back time after time for a week that makes we want to uninvite completely

You don't have to engage with her crazy made up reasons at all. They aren't real. It's a stupid game. Don't play it. You don't have to get stressed helping her to solve her made up problem nor get stressed finding valid excuses to reject her fake need. Have a pre-canned response to all messages. "No, that doesn't work for us." follow up can be "No, still /definitely not OK for us". After that, ignoring is powerful.

You can be rude if she turns up unannounced "No, we told you this doesn't work for us. Goodbye."

Any pressure from her is rude. Any lies from her are rude. Any overriding your clearly stated wishes is rude. Any turning up unannounced is rude. That means you can be more rude right back at her.

Invite her to fewer events too.

ReanimatedSGB · 05/08/2019 21:24

I agree with PP that this is going to start affecting your friendships - if people think 'OP is going to bring her awful gobshite MIL, let's just not invite her'. Either that or, if you have upfront friends, someone is going to steel themselves to say to you: you are invited but your MIL is not, please don't ask if she can come and don't turn up with her in tow.

Hulahola · 05/08/2019 21:32

OP you sound like a lovely person, and you have tolerated such a lot from your MIL. I can tell you once you have your DC your tolerance towards her and this bulls**t will most definitely change. I once got along well with my MIL who sounds a lot like your own, hard work, embarrassing at times, over bearing. I let a lot slide over the years, she ruined a lot of special moments for me by doing and saying stupid things and I kept quiet because of my DH. Once my DS came along I saw what she had being doing all along, the walls came up and I will not allow her to manipulate and cause chaos in our lives any longer.

glennamy · 05/08/2019 21:58

She sounds lonely, but YANBU. If you continue to invite her stick to your guns, if she does not like it then she doesn't come, ensure DH is on board!

Teacher22 · 05/08/2019 22:47

Let her have this event and then stop asking her. She is a manipulative and deceptive woman who knows exactly what she is doing. If your DH insists on having her to one of his birthday or other treats then phone her up and lay down the ground rules firmly, in that if she attempts to overstep the invitation she cannot come at all.

manicmij · 05/08/2019 23:16

You just have to be firm and say it's an afternoon invitation only. You appreciate she has a bit of a journey but it is only the afternoon and you'd understand her not wanting to make the trek for such a small affair. If you don't get her to change her always making demands she will basically drive you away too. Tell her that. Always will to ask her to an event but it is the event only.

InforaPenny7 · 06/08/2019 00:57

Can DH speak to his Dad and say that Mum seems lonely, can you not include her more etc- surely more his responsibility to help her socially than yours?
Has she always had issues with social cues and things?

Susan1961 · 06/08/2019 16:09

You need to tell her why you don't encourage her company, some cruel To be kind honesty perhaps x

HullabBalloo · 06/08/2019 16:22

I think YABU for expecting her to do a 3 hour round trip for a lunch.

freeingNora · 06/08/2019 17:24

I don't think you're being yabu but and it's a big but you have a fil and dh problem they've abdicated all responsibility to you and secondly it sounds like your mil is very lonely either that or she's being abused or overlooked by her dh.
I'm wondering if fil has an her indoors mentality and therefore doesn't consider mil in all his excursions etc he's having a very nice life thank you very much.
I'd advise caution no one knows what goes on behind closed doors but this is a conversation for you and DH to support mil to getting her own life, establishing boundaries and for your own sake checking that your dh doesn't hold deep-seated gendered attitudes which will be difficult to shift once sleeplessness kicks in and the baby arrives

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