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People who have never experienced being in family court

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SavanahXx · 02/08/2019 23:40

It really does my head in when people side with social services. They have an opinion that "they are just doing what's best for the child". These people that have the opinion mostly have never even had involvement with SS, therefore don't see the lies and manipulation of a situation that they use.

It's easy for them to say that a parent 'could pose a risk' but do you know how hard it is to prove you wouldn't?

I seen an utterly revolting article that really baffled me. Social workers manage to get away with this stuff daily. Yet its not reported as it should be. This child was removed, with a judges permission. Then placed back with the mother by another judge.
There is so much corruption in our society and it needs to change.

www.google.com/amp/s/www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/06/13/social-worker-criticised-child-taken-away-mother-refused-give/amp/

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picklemepopcorn · 05/08/2019 15:57

I'm not surprised, it's awful. Ditto when children are placed who are a danger to others.

The system is incompetent. Most of the individual s are just trying their best.

If you make a mistake on the till, you over or under charge someone. If you make a mistake as a sw, it's life and. Death.
There should be enough capacity for everything to be checked as the Scottish SW upthread described.
But there isn't.

auntethel · 05/08/2019 16:02

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auntethel · 05/08/2019 16:50

Foreword

I can hardly read the literature on Family Law without
simultaneous feelings of an awful sadness and
profound rage. Sadness at what has been done to our
children and their families and deep rage for our
Family Courts and the inadequate practitioners that
work within it.

In the near future the Family Law under which we
endure will be seen as barbaric, criminally damaging,
abusive, neglectful, harmful to society, the family, the
parents and the children in whose name it purports
to act. It is beyond scrutiny or criticism and like a secret society its members – the judges, lawyers,
social and child “care” agencies behave like any closed vested interest and protect each others’
backs.

The court is entirely informed by outdated social engineering models and contemporary attitudes
rather than fact, precedent rather than common sense and modish unproven nostrums rather than
present day realities. It is a disgraceful mess. A farrago of cod professionalism and faux concern
largely predicated on nonsensical social guff, mumbo-jumbo and psycho-babble. Dangling at the
other end of this are the lives of thousands of British children and their families.
Here is one more report that empirically nails the obvious fact that to remove a child from their
father (in the hugely vast majority of cases), their grandparents and other family, their school and
friends, is wholly destructive to a child and its family.

How much longer must we put up with the state sanctioned kidnap of our most vulnerable?
Because in effect that’s what “Leave to Remove” amounts to. How much longer do we tolerate the
vested interest intransigence of the appalling U.K. Family Justice system? How long before just one
of them admit they have got it ALL wrong and apologise to their myriad victims?

This report is important, timely and vital. To accept its findings, which could have and should have,
been conducted at any time in the past 30 years, is to accept the awful conclusion that rather than
Solomon like resolving our tragically human disputes with understanding, compassion and logical
pragmatism the courts have consistently acted against society’s interest through the application of
prejudice, gender bias and awful impartial cruelty.
This report proves it. May God forgive them. I won’t.

Bob Geldof

Taken from published work on www.familylawweek.co.uk/site.Aspx?i=ed46050

A report by The Custody Minefield
Foreword by Sir Bob Geldof
December 2009

auntethel · 05/08/2019 17:27

Sir Bob Geldof. In the near future the Family Law under which we endure will be seen as barbaric, criminally damaging, abusive, neglectful, harmful to society, the family, the parents and the children in whose name it purports to act. It is beyond scrutiny or criticism and like a secret society its members - the judges, lawyers, social and child "care" agencies behave like any closed vested interest and protect each others' backs.

auntethel · 05/08/2019 17:40

How long before just one of them admit they have got it ALL wrong and apologise to their myriad victims?

auntethel · 05/08/2019 17:45

How much longer must we put up with the state sanctioned kidnap of our most vulnerable? Sir Bob Geldof

SavanahXx · 05/08/2019 17:57

@auntethel either you've struck a nerve or people are starting to see the other side of it :) x

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auntethel · 05/08/2019 18:15

Can't really argue against Sir Bob Geldof, can they Savanah?Wink He's been through the family court too. DD put that article on for me, I didn't know how to do it Grin

SavanahXx · 05/08/2019 18:30

All hard to argue with haha, that's a way to prove your point 😂 and DD to the rescue haha!

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jennymanara · 05/08/2019 18:32

Or others including me have just given up.

SavanahXx · 05/08/2019 18:34

@jennymanara haha ok.

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auntethel · 05/08/2019 18:37

Savanah Just said to DH they wouldn't call Bob Geldof a liar, would they? He replied "oh yes they would"!!! Grin

jennymanara · 05/08/2019 18:39

Bob Geldof is an idiot, and I say that not related to this issue.

auntethel · 05/08/2019 18:39

Why have you given up @jennymanara?

auntethel · 05/08/2019 18:41

Doesn't sound like an idiot to me, just yet another victim of the kangaroo courts. jenny

auntethel · 05/08/2019 18:44

Was he an idiot when he was saving thousands of lives with Live Aid? Really, how low can people stoop?

wishingforapositiveyear · 05/08/2019 18:45

Your not hard to argue with people are just bored of your incessant ranting. Yes you feel there has been an injustice so go through the local authority's complaints systems, what good are you hoping to achieve. Making comments that 80% that voted YABU are just scared of the truth makes you sound like some kind of cult.

wishingforapositiveyear · 05/08/2019 18:45

Your not hard to argue with people are just bored of your incessant ranting. Yes you feel there has been an injustice so go through the local authority's complaints systems, what good are you hoping to achieve. Making comments that 80% that voted YABU are just scared of the truth makes you sound like some kind of cult.

wishingforapositiveyear · 05/08/2019 18:45

Your not hard to argue with people are just bored of your incessant ranting. Yes you feel there has been an injustice so go through the local authority's complaints systems, what good are you hoping to achieve. Making comments that 80% that voted YABU are just scared of the truth makes you sound like some kind of cult.

auntethel · 05/08/2019 18:46

People give up easily don't they? God help them if they ever have to go through Family Court themselves!

jennymanara · 05/08/2019 18:48

The money from Live Aid was used to prop up an oppressive dictatorship. Geldof was warned beforehand that the money would end up being used for this. He ignored it.

jennymanara · 05/08/2019 18:49

And yes incessant ranting saying things that make no sense makes it a waste of time to engage.

auntethel · 05/08/2019 18:49

wishing That's Sir Bob Geldof's rant, not ours Grin

TwoPupsandaHamster · 05/08/2019 18:50

You realise that report is Geldof attacking the Family Courts over Father's Rights yes? Or did that go over your head?

The report is not about babies "being snatched", Social Workers lying about medication... Or anything that's been discussed on this thread. It's about The Courts seemingly giving mothers more rights to their children than the fathers. But don't let that stop your fruitless search for answers about a SW's perceived act of overdosing your DS, against doctors instructions.

This thread gets more and more absurd every time you post 😂

auntethel · 05/08/2019 18:53

wishing while you're here, what do you think about the fact that a young mother had to leave her newborn 10 hours after birth, whilst breastfeeding?

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