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The absolute state of the Daily Mail (re Meghan Markle)

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Hithere12 · 30/07/2019 12:18

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7298013/Meghan-Markles-organic-baby-shawl-used-swaddle-Archie-workers-earning-37-PENCE-hour.html

This is there top story. Meghan is using a cheap shawl & DM have found the factory it was made in.

She’s been criticised non stop for her spending, uses something cheap and the DM visit the sweatshop it was made in! I’m sorry but we are all guilty of this, very few people I’m sure track down where everything they buy is made and how much the staff are paid.

It’s just getting ridiculous how they’ll find literally anything to criticise.

If the DM want to expose sweat shops (something they care little about usually) they have the resources and man power to do so but they don’t give a shit they just want to go after Meghan.

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Encyclo · 30/07/2019 23:03

Remember when she was pregnant and the dm comments section,
(And people on this site)accused her of faking her pregnancy, “oh her bump keeps changing size...” and other similar bullshit.

Once Archie was born, it was clear she was postpartum, so she was bodyshamed for being fat.

MrsVanCleef · 30/07/2019 23:38

And then she was accused of not holding him properly.

Encyclo · 30/07/2019 23:40

Exactly.

IdaBWells · 30/07/2019 23:41

I don't like the DM's demonization of MM.

I do think her take on being Royal is a bit confused however. I think it has a lot to do with being American. I live in the US and there is quite a cult around the mega rich who are not criticized that much. There just isn't a national equivalent of the British newspapers for constantly criticizing the rich and famous. So I do think she sees her audience as America and knows what she is doing is considered acceptable and harmless over here. She's right. Marrying a Prince, swanning around in fab clothes and hobnobing with celebrities and royals while sending out platitudes of "virtue signalling" do-goodery plays absolutely fine over here.

I think it's ridiculous that she is criticized for spending taxpayers money and having a wealthy lifestyle. Isn't that what Royalty is? Doesn't Prince Charles have 8 homes? I think Edward and Sophie's pile in Windsor is absolutely massive compared to Frogmere Cottage. All the others get off Scot-free though, so clearly MM is being picked out for treatment that the rest don't get.

MrsVanCleef · 30/07/2019 23:46

Incidentally the DM is quite fascinated with Mumsnet. So I hope they are reading our disgust.
But then again DM and women like Sarah Vine, Jan Moir, Carole deranged Malone all lack emotional intelligence. A deficiency that is so prevalent among right wingers (and racists).

Lifeover · 30/07/2019 23:57

And Harry states they are stopping at a max of no more than 2 kids for environmental reasons they are still slagged off for it because Meagan used aprivate plane. Looks like they can’t do anything right

Hithere12 · 31/07/2019 00:04

IdaBWells

Yes you’re completely right. In US they have much more nasty attitude towards poor people and seem to worship the rich. They completely blame people for being poor. It’s definitely a cultural difference which to be honest as an adult would be very hard to overcome.

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Hithere12 · 31/07/2019 00:04

Incidentally the DM is quite fascinated with Mumsnet. So I hope they are reading our disgust

They took it off the front page really soon after this thread started so here’s hoping haha

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Borntobedifferent · 31/07/2019 00:14

I cringed at the article and feel it has gone too far.

However they have as a couple been very naive and I would think they haven't took good advice. Harry is so rightly wary re the media but he seemed to have a good relationship with them but he has to take some of the blame for this mess.

I agree re American v British. For example in America the president spends millions on redecorating the white House every 4 years whilst the Brits hate money being spent on Buckingham Palace.

AlbertWinestein · 31/07/2019 00:59

Piers Morgan is NOT as famous in the US as he is in the UK, as much as he thinks he is. He had a brief stint on AGT and was on Celebrity Apprentice about 10 million years ago. Other than that, nobody gives a shit who he is.

AlbertWinestein · 31/07/2019 01:05

He was cast as the “Nasty Brit” in AGT but then it turned out the US audience were overwhelmingly “Who the fuck do you think you are?!” At least Simon has some credentials for the role.

Hithere12 · 31/07/2019 01:06

AlbertWinestein

Yes he is. You may not like him but he was a CNN Prime time presenter and was on AGT for years.

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IdaBWells · 31/07/2019 01:11

Hithere I wouldn't say that people blame the poor, no. Just like the UK it depends on their politics. The US is massive compared to the UK, the whole of the UK would fit into California, so I do think the fact that there just isn't one media outlet that dominates the conversation as much as the national press does in the UK is relevant. In terms of the main stream media, all the radio, newspapers, magazines and TV stations are owned by just 5 companies which does prevent an examination of WHY there is so much inequality in the US. If course, most people are getting their info online and informally these days but it's not coordinated enough to form an opinion on MM. I have not heard one person ever mention her over here, so she is not high in people's consciousness. I think people think she "made good", "good for her" etc. and get on with their lives. The DM is like the bitter EX in their obsession with her. In fact Piers Morgan's attitude it a great summation of the editorial policy it seems. Bitter and resentful but willing to make money from vilifying her.

IdaBWells · 31/07/2019 01:13

AlbertWinestein Morgan's story is he followed her on social media and got an immediate reply from her saying how flattered she was (as he is definitely well known over here). They then started a correspondence.

MuseThalia · 31/07/2019 02:08

They need to print the daily mail on toilet paper because that is all its good for. Piers Morgon is completely obsessed with Meghan Markle, bordering on stalkerish ever since she snubbed him.

AlbertWinestein · 31/07/2019 02:35

HiThere I am American and live here. He was a CNN presenter for a hot minute as he decided his bread and butter was pedalling his faux Trump love back home. He is honestly not a household name over here. In the uK, sadly, he is.

DeRigueurMortis · 31/07/2019 02:38

I think a lot of people fail to recall (or were not of an age to) of the bad press Diana, Fergie and Sophie were the recipients of from the tabloids.

There was a very similar M.O. we see played out here.

There's almost a pathological need to cut these women "down to size" until a new "target" joins the firm and suddenly the focus of such previous editorial ire is redeemed and considered worthy.

Look at the press Cathrine received until MM joined the party. Now she's a beacon of graciousness whilst the vilification passes to MM.

Note how it's still only the women marrying into the Firm who are treated in this way.

All that said, I do think the editorial line towards MM has been particularly vicious - even by the standards of what how other women marrying in to the RF have been treated (and yes Piers you set the stage for that you misogynistic prick and continue your stalker like obsessive vilification of a woman you had an association, rather than a friendship with).

I'm not going to pretend that at times she's not provided them some great ammunition (baby shower by way of example) but on the whole I suspect she's a women finding her feet in a pretty rarified world where presently she can't put a step right without the press finding a reason why that was wrong.

Hithere12 · 31/07/2019 02:50

Look at the press Cathrine received until MM joined the party. Now she's a beacon of graciousness whilst the vilification passes to MM

People keep bringing this up but with MM it’s literally a daily occurrence of them finding anything to beat her with. It’s not near the same level.

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DeRigueurMortis · 31/07/2019 03:18

OP - which is why I also said that I felt the editorial line towards MM has been particularly vicious and to paraphrase that she can't do right for doing wrong.

I'd appreciate if you didn't "cherry pick" one part of my post.

It is a common theme that these women are vilified and it's ugly to witness.

There were however, daily stories about Fergie of a brutal nature. People forget this.

I'm not making any attempt to justify it - quite the reverse.

Janista · 31/07/2019 04:26

And whilst she was alive, Diana was taking 1.2million a year living expenses from the taxpayer.

Why people continue to defend this nonsense and total waste of public money whether it’s Meghan or prince Edward is beyond me.

QueenBeee · 31/07/2019 04:41

I think there is more of a live and let live attitude in the US. I think it's our class system that influences the evil bitchinrss you get here in the DM etc and makes it quite acceptable to pull people down if they've dared to get above themselves (in British eyes). I doubt its as bad in any other country. And it seems to be women pulling women down. The average man doesn't give a monkeys about royal women.

Swoopinggulls · 31/07/2019 07:22

I take it you one of the nutters who comment on every story about her on the daily fail

The opposite. I don't read any tabloids, neither the DM nor any other trashy newspapers and certainly don't comment on Meghan or anyone else.
I just don't understand why so many posts on MN link to it or comment on its articles.

SoWhat21 · 31/07/2019 07:42

Anti FGM campaign would be perfect for her, as dextra said.

I’m really not sure why an FGM campaign would be “perfect” for her.

Oh but don’t you see? FGM happens in mainly African communities and she is black. So therefore perfect for her. Stick with your own Meghan. Honestly so patronising.

SoWhat21 · 31/07/2019 07:43

First two paragraphs should be in bold. I’m quoting them

TSSDNCOP · 31/07/2019 07:59

The thing is because you don’t read it doesn’t mean that it doesn’t exist. It does; and the content is vicious. OP is right that the articles regarding Meghan are incredibly vicious, and whilst the articles cling just the right side of legal (I’m deliberately putting ethical and moral to one side) the comments absolutely don’t - there are people posting there that we should be very concerned live amongst us.

The Mail has relentlessly gone after the royal family. Edward was continuously hinted as gay, Katherine’s entire female family have been vilified (they would’ve loved to have printed the pictures of Kate topless), The York girls etc etc.

They get a week off in the run up to and the day after their weddings and the day a baby is born, and then if they’re “lucky” another victim enters.

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