To think in Boris calls an election now he will win.......

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I don’t want him to but what is the alternative!?

:) That's ok Milkyway

I really, really dislike Jo Swinson. I also really, really dislike JC and I despise the Torys. So I'm quite stuck.

But I think if a GE was called I would vote LibDem despite serious reservations because Brexit is the most pressing issue and then hopefully once that was stopped (optimist) then we could get a decent leader of the Lib Dems or Labour in power and sort everything else out (eternal optimist)

and we have a plan. From another optimist!

:) Yaay. We have fixed the country :) Phew

Yay. Yet more oh but the Tories are so bad and no will to look at the concerns about the other parties. Boris must be rubbing his hands in glee.

People have always been aware of what Boris is about a man driven by his own ambition and out for himself

We have known that the buffoonery is an act, about his personal life, his lies and so on

This is nothing new at all yet people will still vote for him they have confidence in him to lead the way

He won the mayor vote twice (in a city that is predominantly Labour) and it was him that won the Leave vote (it was win win either way for him until Gove stabbed him in the back)

He knows how popular he is and so do his pr team an election will be called while labour are probably squabbling over who shall be leader

I’m not sure who can take on Boris Johnson in an election needs to be another big persona I really like Keir Starmer but he isn’t the right person at this point in time

He’d get a clear majority.

The main opposition should be 20+ ahead in the polls but, are a shit shower and the minority parties like the Greens and the liberals are an embarrassment at the moment

The main opposition should be 20+ ahead in the polls

Werent we told that before the 2017 election that the Tories lost their majority in?

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The election Labour failed to win despite the Tory PM running the worst campaign anyone has ever seen. It won't be like that this time.

The election Labour failed to win despite the Tory PM running the worst campaign anyone has ever seen.

Exactly. Theresa May was a dismal campaigner - Boris not so. Jeremy Corbyn looked like a sulky schoolboy opposite Boris in the HOC the other day.

No, it won’t be like the 2017 election at all. We now have the Brexit party in the mix to split the leave vote. We also have a reenergised LibDem party that’s hoovering up Remain votes. We no longer have a two party system. The next election will be nothing like any in history. The stakes have never been higher. Added to which, it seems N Ireland’s getting pretty sick of the DUP.

I'm at the point of thinking that English politics has gone mad, and the sooner Scotland and NI get away from the unholy mess the better.

Boris trashed Corbyn the other day
And will continue to do so
Hardly a surprise

Out of the 10 questions Corbyn asked Johnson answered none, so I think our definition of trashed differ

Would you have really expected them answered

May/Cameron didn’t answer his questions we know that it gives them a platform to say what they want to say that’s how it always is

Hasn’t Corbyn learnt anything ffs he looked incompetent as always at a time when he should have at leased looked a little more in charge given he has been in his role for almost four years

You are joking aren't you?

The whole tory government is "evil" is built along class lines

Nonsense! most people who don't support the Cons do so because of policy, its got nothing to do with class.

Not knowing the difference between roots and routes shows how little you got out of your school years and why we need a properly funded education system, something the Tories will never ever do, they simply do not want the unwashed to better themselves, every policy they have had or opposed shows this to be the case.

London Mayoral elections usually get around 40 to 45% voter turnout, Johnson convincing perhaps a quarter of london's population to vote for him is hardly stella.

Libdems were parr of COALITION government, although minority party - it means they had to vote along the coalition many times. Tories alone would have gone much harder on austerity, and Labour was actually proposing in 2010 similar cuts - since economy took a turn for better, they're all able to make promises to spend money. JC's (and many of those in his front bench, apart from keir starmer and Emily thornberry maybe) stand on many things is appealing, and their incompetence.

A Conservative candidate wasn’t expected to become the London Mayor

And do you really believe Leave would have won without Boris. He toned down his buffoonery, made ridiculous statements that threw the Remain campaign he knows how to campaign and win people over and make people believe he is a good leader and he will do that in an general election campaign he is the right person the lead the UK through Brexit

Labour need a leader who can match that

The election Labour failed to win despite the Tory PM running the worst campaign anyone has ever seen.

But nor did May get her 100 majority, and she didn't even manage to retain the 12 seat majority she did have.

The whole tory government is "evil" is built along class lines

Working class people are more likely to vote Conservative and middle class people Labour.

www.channel4.com/news/factcheck/factcheck-is-labour-the-party-of-the-working-class

That’s if you judge class by profession and income rather than accepting millionaires who say they’re working class at face value.

Labour currently seem to think the working classes they’re supposed to represent are the most unspeakable scum of the earth.

We can only dream!

Labour may have been more of the party in the past that would get more support form working class but that has changed and changed considerably under Thatcher

Labour is led by upper middle class twats who feel it is their right to talk for the working class without actually listening to what many have to say. After all they have that entitlement to know what is best for others

Not knowing the difference between roots and routes shows how little you got out of your school years and why we need a properly funded education system, something the Tories will never ever do, they simply do not want the unwashed to better themselves, every policy they have had or opposed shows this to be the case.

Wow, from that was from the heart, I am dyslexic and have somehow become a senior coder in silicon valley so step off your soap box a bit.

You really need a new attack line.

something the Tories will never ever do, they simply do not want the unwashed to better themselves, every policy they have had or opposed shows this to be the case.

To pick up on this, if we are playing black and white childlike understanding of politics, then its labours fault that degrees have been devalued and to the rise of zero hour contracts because of the magic 16 hours tax credits sweet spot, and you don't get to use the "not true" labour card as well.

Labour is led by upper middle class twats who feel it is their right to talk for the working class without actually listening to what many have to say. After all they have that entitlement to know what is best for others

Exactly. Their volte face to remain has been an absolute slap in the face to their northern and midlands working class leave voters. They really have dumped the working class for wealthy southern elites. The wealthy AB classes were the only ones who voted a majority for Remain. Incidentally when Mumsnet used to do censuses they showed users were mainly well off middle class professionals so the left wing bias on here is unsurprising.

Wow, from that was from the heart, I am dyslexic and have somehow become a senior coder in silicon valley so step off your soap box a bit.

That was an epic burn.