Boris supporters AIBU to ask why you think he should be PM?

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I would really like to hear the views of Boris supporters. I fully understand the anti-Boris arguments.

Do you only ever converse with people guaranteed to agree with you?

I only ever see that written by Tories and Leave voters on here.

Between Boris and Hunt as an ex NHS nurse I would hands down prefer Boris. Lesser of two evils purely for what he did when health secretary

Well, I agree about Hunt, but would Boris have done any better as health secretary? I suppose being a lazy so and so he might have just left people to get on with it, and then it would have come down to the management of individual trusts as to how they performed.

@Peregrina Well, I agree about Hunt, but would Boris have done any better as health secretary? I suppose being a lazy so and so he might have just left people to get on with it, and then it would have come down to the management of individual trusts as to how they performed.

Who knows? I can't second guess what he may have done in the same situation. However when I see Hunt on the TV I can almost taste the bile bubbling up!
I lived in London when BoJo was Mayor and that didn't fall to shit either... I'm tentatively hopeful.

No I’m sorry, the left is just as keen, if not more so, to close down debate. The difference is they’ll do it by telling you that if you vote Tory it means you want to kill disabled people or similar. Which always sits a little oddly with me, as the parent of one, but never mind.

@peregrina, I'm referring to those Tory grandees and Tory MPs who didn't vote for him. If Tory MPs had been the sole voters, he wouldn't be there.

I'm referring to those Tory grandees and Tory MPs who didn't vote for him.

Ah yes. We forget also that the Tories have had a Momentum style entryism from right wing bigots.

I’m not sure many people do think he’ll be a good pm since he was only voted in by 0.25% of the population.

@Peregrina, don't do this, I haven't got time or energy but surely you're not describing e.g. Dominic Greave at al already mentioned as right wing entryists?

My m-in-law and a work colleague being supporters of the man both say ‘He’ll get the job done.’ They like action.

Geraniumpink - I hear that a lot. I just don't know quite where people have got the idea that he's a man of action. If anything, the testimony of people who've worked with him seems to be that's he talks big but is terminally lazy.

Full of typos but you know what I mean!

Dominic Greave at al already mentioned as right wing entryists?

Absolutely not. I was thinking of the rabble which gave him a vote of No Confidence. I saw the Sunday Times film clip and thought that the old fashioned Tories that I knew would have been absolutely horrified by the behaviour they saw. They had better standards than that.

I think because they are of the ‘leave means leave’ group - not minding in the least if it means leave with no deal - at least something is being done.

blogs.lse.ac.uk/brexit/2019/07/24/long-read-there-is-a-powerfully-rationality-behind-the-desire-for-a-no-deal-brexit/

Here’s some very insightful and deeply depressing reading for you all.

Thanks for that LaurieMarlow. I’m off to cry under the bed now. It’s unutterably depressing.

Boris is what we need.
Someone who does say and do things, rather than always trying to control he delegates, the most successful people know if you want a job done, get some who has the skill to do it for you.
We need more police to combat crime, oh look he says employ and train them.
He did lower crime and n London when he was Mayor.
He knows people are fed up of political lies and broken promises....So he has promised things will be sorted in 100 days.
The EU is scared, about bloody time.

Here’s some very insightful and deeply depressing reading for you all.

Yes, it did look depressing. He said:

Some might wonder why we have heard so little from Nigel Farage lately. This is rare. But it is entirely understandable, and wholly calculated. He needs to say nothing at all, as everything is going his way. Whichever path is chosen by the government, it will weaken the legitimacy of Parliament and leave a large group of very disgruntled people, who will be fodder for a populist revolution.

Yes, among the Leavers, but there will be a significant number who will never support Farage.

No, I meant among Remainers won't support Farage. Not all Leavers would either. Last night's local elections maybe gave a clue - he will retain the UKIP vote. Moderate Leavers will stick with their existing parties.

Someone who does say and do things, rather than always trying to control he delegates, the most successful people know if you want a job done, get some who has the skill to do it for you.
We need more police to combat crime, oh look he says employ and train them.

Well he won't be able to put fully trained Police Constables on the beat in 100 days. It would take that long to recruit them and then I think it's a two year training course. So if he's not careful a flood of new recruits will appear just after the next election and he won't get the credit. Diddums.

What does he actually do apart from employ his willy?

Where is he going to get the money from mummy. If it was so simple why hasn't it been done before?

I am a school governor and I look forward to his pledge to level up school funding, especially as we are in area of the lowest funding. However, I wonder if this will be at the expense of other things. Teacher pension costs are rising by 40% next year. Together with teacher pay rises this is crucifying school budgets. The Government have pledged to cover this rise, but currently for only one year and they will review the position for future years. I have a funny feeling the per pupil funding may go up, but the pension cover will disappear and many schools will probably end up in a worse position.

I was on the poor end of the scale during Blair reign.

Child poverty grew under his tenure, they widely admitted they failed all targets.
It was only brown chucking tax credits out at the end that lifted the stats but over a decade people suffered.

Who removed legal aid.

Who ripped out that rug of access to legal help?
I'm a swing voter and I've voted Labour more than tory but what I saw under Blair, the reality on the ground, and the spin and lies put on it by the government and left wing media terrified me. It was during that period and what went on in hospitals etc when I realised what a dreadful paper the guardian is.

I think the Rotherham cases sum all that up really.

No one appears honest to me and listening in the Labour Party right now they seem incapable of it. As pp said they keep saying what they think people want they are not. Listening.

Boris is a man who makes his fellow politicians look principled. He is volatile, self-serving, (probably) unstable with no capacity for detail, but

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Laurie, I would not call that deeply insightful at all. In fact it rather sums up what posters said earlier.

@peregrina, that's a relief. I agree, the rabble are abysmal. @LaurieMarlow, that's a pretty fair summary and forecast. Utterly grim.

The EU is scared, about bloody time.

I found that attitude unfathomable and downright frightening. These are our friends, allies and trading partners.