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So Boris Johnson is the new PM.

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AngeloMysterioso · 23/07/2019 12:06

Aaaaaaaaand we’re fucked.

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LaurieMarlow · 24/07/2019 23:31

Perhaps having someone who believes in Brexit is our best chance!

I don’t think Boris believes in anything beyond the glorious destiny of Boris.

Have you forgotten his ‘pro remain’ editorial? Wink

He only ever supported Brexit to piss off DC.

StoneofDestiny · 24/07/2019 23:40

Yes - lets Trust everything Blow Jo says...

Mr Johnson appeared to be caught out during the Tory leadership campaign after being asked at a hustings event when he had last cried. He claimed it was when his beloved bicycle was stolen from outside parliament, saying he had used the vehicle, named "Bikey", for the entirety of his eight years as Mayor of London

He said: “It was never nicked during all my time as mayor and I used to chain it up across the whole city. Barely had [his successor as mayor] Sadiq Khan’s reign begun before it was nicked.”

He added: “Anyone who has something they love stolen feels a sense of outrage and injustice. That’s another reason we need more police on the streets.”

However, the claim appeared to unravel when an article emerged from 2014, in which Mr Johnson described how “Bikey” had been written off after a crash. The bike's frame had snapped after he rode it into a pothole concealed by a puddle during a storm, he said.

Given the article dated from 2014, it appeared to contradict his claim that "Bikey" had been used throughout his time at City Hall, which ended in 2016, and had been stolen years later, after Mr Khan took office.

A fishy business. Mr Johnson raised eyebrows at the last hustings of the leadership contest after brandishing a smoked kipper on stage

He waved the fish during a rant about “pointless, expensive, environmentally damaging” EU regulations, claiming that Brussels bureaucracy had "massively" increased costs for fish suppliers because of rules saying that their products must be transported in ice

However, it later emerged that the regulations had, in fact, been introduced by the UK government, not by the EU

HelenaDove · 24/07/2019 23:47

Jacob Rees-Mogg
@JacobReesMogg
Freedom is the answer to our housing crisis. I lay out my four-point plan to get more people on the housing ladder in today's Sunday @Telegraph
. Full paper, published with @iealondon
, out tomorrow

fucking rat faced cunt.

Mistigri · 24/07/2019 23:52

Once Brexit is over

Come back in a decade. No deal prolongs the pain, rather than truncating it.

HelenaDove · 24/07/2019 23:53

@EstherMcVey1, who has been appointed Minister of State at the Ministry of Housing, Communities and Local Government.
🔵
🌳
🇬🇧

Esther will also attend Cabinet

HelenaDove · 25/07/2019 00:05

Wonder what will happen with the social housing green paper now

Roussette · 25/07/2019 07:14

Drain the swamp and let's leave the EU

And where've I heard that before? Yeah... Trump and the US. Drain the swamp was his soundbite over and over and it didn't work there either. The swamp is murkier than ever.

The similarities cannot be escaped. 'Out by 31st October' is the equivalent of Trump's 'Build the Wall'. Everyone needs a slogan but it doesn't necessarily means it's going to happen...

Then I wake up to Rees-Smog as Leader of the House. Now that's depressing. Disgusting man. He actually heard about his new position from Laura Kuennsberg (BBC political correspondent. Footage proves this). The disorganisation and don't know what they're doing... it's started...

TheSultanofPingu · 25/07/2019 07:19

What I find so depressing in all of this is how people have been gullible enough to fall for the jokey Boris/ loveable buffoon image.
Members of the public being interviewed in the street saying that 'he will bring humour, which is what this country needs', and similar crap.
I suspect the penny will drop pretty soon though.

urbanlife · 25/07/2019 07:24

There felt to be a genuine feeling of change and hope yesterday. Everyone felt it, even the most ardent remainers felt the tides changing.
Have confidence in the country, move with the times. Living your life in a bitter angst riddled state is not healthy, allow yourself a moment of joy that we still live in a democracy, all will be well. You don’t have to live here if you don’t believe in the country, the world is a big place.

Shortstuff99 · 25/07/2019 07:26

spare a thought for Nazanin Zaghari-Ratcliffein a mental ward of a jail die to Johnson's stupidity

Sorry but this is grossly misleading. She was already serving a 5 year jail sentence on trumped up charges at the hands of a despicable regime

She is being used as a negotiating pawn and there is no certainty that she’d be free without his comments as she had no place being in custody in the first place

Blame Iran for her incarceration rather than using it to score cheap points against Johnson

CurlyWurlyTwirly · 25/07/2019 07:30

I have been thinking about her a lot.
Bojo did not help her situation at all, and probably made it worse.

Sorority · 25/07/2019 07:33

There felt to be a genuine feeling of change and hope yesterday. Everyone felt it, even the most ardent remainers felt the tides changing.
Have confidence in the country, move with the times. Living your life in a bitter angst riddled state is not healthy, allow yourself a moment of joy that we still live in a democracy, all will be well. You don’t have to live here if you don’t believe in the country, the world is a big place.

Agree.

iwantadishwasher · 25/07/2019 07:33

God @Shortstuff99 why are you defending Johnson at every turn? He was pretty widely condemned for his comments on that case.

Roussette · 25/07/2019 07:39

You don’t have to live here if you don’t believe in the country, the world is a big place

And where've I heard that before too? What a lazy thing to say. If you don't like it, leave. Very current. So those that don't agree with the way the country's going should just leave and let the lunatics take over the asylum?

Sorry it doesn't work like that, thank god. Every political party should have opposition or we're going down a very scary route.

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 25/07/2019 07:52

There felt to be a genuine feeling of change and hope yesterday. Everyone felt it, even the most ardent remainers felt the tides changing. Have confidence in the country, move with the times. Living your life in a bitter angst riddled state is not healthy, allow yourself a moment of joy that we still live in a democracy, all will be well. You don’t have to live here if you don’t believe in the country, the world is a big place.

urbanlife and I are living in parallel universes. In my world there was a genuine feeling yesterday of horror, anger and despair that politicians who lost their jobs because of ineptitude and dishonesty have been brought back and promoted. At a time when the country needs the cleverest, most competent, honest and principled people in charge the Tory Party has gone for the complete opposite.

I can't even hope for a General Election because the Labour Party has gone a similar way.

The only possible way out is for a party of national unity to come together with the explicit purpose of revoking A50 and offering the public another chance to vote, this time with full and accurate information not manipulated by Putin.

LizzieSiddal · 25/07/2019 07:53

There felt to be a genuine feeling of change and hope yesterday. Everyone felt it, even the most ardent remainers felt the tides changing.

There’s also a genuine feeling of fear,
There are massive warnings from around the world, telling us that the UK will be economically fucked if we have a no deal Brexit. You’d be either naive or stupid to ignore these warnings.
Our new prime minister and those he surrounds himself with, are indeed ignoring these warnings.

It will be the poor and vulnerable who suffer for years and years, after already suffering for years under austerity. Whilst the rich get richer.

Lweji · 25/07/2019 07:55

More like, if you don't like how the country is run, run for office or vote to change the government.

CatherineOfAragonsPrayerBook · 25/07/2019 07:56

Everyone felt it, even the most ardent remainers felt the tides changing

Ha ha ha! Somebody pass me the Kool-Aid.

Lweji · 25/07/2019 07:56

Why didn't Brexiters leave the country instead of voting out? Wink

merrymouse · 25/07/2019 08:00

You don’t have to live here if you don’t believe in the country

As anybody who has taken a citizenship test knows, Boris Johnson is the prime minister, not 'the country'.

Rightly or wrongly he did not win an election to become Prime Minister, and does not currently control a majority, so it should come as no surprise that he is not universally popular.

I'm not sure what you believe in, but Johnson has done more than most to keep the the UK in the EU since 2016.

LadyBumclock · 25/07/2019 08:02

I can feel the tides changing alright. That’s not the best metaphor maybe? Anyone without their own boat is going to be washed away.

Also it’s not just a case of whether you can survive a no-deal brexit financially. A lot of people will not, and as years of austerity and brexit-related business departures have shown, increasing poverty leads to increasing crime, homelessness, delapidation, lack of policing and general crumbling of society that affects everyone.

TanMateix · 25/07/2019 08:08

Yep, and those people without their own boat are the ones more entrenched about Brexit because apart of no boat, they cannot understand how economics work, so they prefer to dismiss the facts to decide just with feeling.

Obviously, there are some Brexiteer’s that now where this is going, but many of them have a nice boat tied up in what now is a good pension or an offshore account.

Peregrina · 25/07/2019 08:22

An extreme right winger with some truly shocking opinions, inc suggesting the threat of another Irish famine to get capitulation on the backstop! [Patel]

United Ireland must surely be on the cards within the next decade? I wonder how Cameron, Johnson and Patel will feel about breaking up the UK.

Notonthestairs · 25/07/2019 08:23

As I understand it Priti Patel held covert meetings with Israeli government officials (according to reports to funnel money to the Israeli army). Done with out the approval of the FCO - in fact carried out deliberately behind their backs and dressed up as a holiday!

Priti Patel was forced to resign for good reason. Personally I think if you've had to leave your job for misleading your own party/government there should be no way back (and that applies to all the parties).

But id like to add 1) The justice system is being run on a shoe string. Budgets have been cut by successive governments. It is struggling and we should all be worried about this. Have a look at The Secret Barrister's book if you are interested. The idea of adding capital punishment to an already run down system scares me.

  1. Suggesting we starve Ireland in to submission was just appalling. No good blaming it on failing education standards/lack of history. If you are interested in politics a good starting point should be understanding our relationships and history with our nearest neighbours. Just wrong.
Notonthestairs · 25/07/2019 08:27

Ah bum. That was supposed to be on the Priti Patel thread - apologises Blush