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"Why isn't he called Murphy like the rest of them?"

211 replies

GrouchoMrx · 19/07/2019 12:54

AIBU to think that Boris Johnson is not fit to be Prime Minister?

Boris Johnson questioned why the Irish Taoiseach Leo Varadkar isn't "called Murphy like all the rest of them?"

www.businessinsider.com/boris-johnson-angela-merkel-stasi-leo-varadkar-murphy-comments-brexit-2019-7?r=US&IR=T

No doubt Johnson will have common ground with Trump and will offer the NHS on a plate as part of a trade deal.

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SuperSara · 19/07/2019 15:39

Loving these @cardibach Grin

Have you got any more of those wanky, carefully-crafted-to-hide-the-truth graphics you could post for a laugh?

Does your union also encourage frequent and liberal use of 'race to the bottom'?

You could shoehorn that in for a bit of effect.

MrPan · 19/07/2019 15:44

Just seeing Channel 4 are doing a fact check exercise on anything said by any politician following Johnson's coronation.

Isthisafreename · 19/07/2019 15:48

@MrPan - Well that's your interpretation. I know it differently. Yes it was a non-Dublin folk reference but times change. It's far more generic and yes it's accurate for Johnson.

That would be the interpretation of every Irish person I know. And, as I'm Irish, living in Ireland, that would be a fair few people.

Bog trotter? I was being specific to an Irish context. It's an assessment for an ignorant oaf

If you were being specific to an Irish context, then I would assume you were referring to the Irish meaning, which is not an "ignorant oaf". It may be far more generic in the UK, but it isn't in Ireland.

Isthisafreename · 19/07/2019 15:50

@JaneJeffer - I recommend googling him. Yum.

I'm not a fan of the beard though.

cardibach · 19/07/2019 15:54

No actual reasons why they are wrong then Sara? Thought not.
Are you in favour of a case to the bottom or not, by the way?

dustarr73 · 19/07/2019 15:55

Pity Leo plays for the other side.

ghostyslovesheets · 19/07/2019 15:58

I’d rather have Boris than senile antisemite Corbin so being anti Islamic is fine? maybe we should have neither?

Boris is not stupid and it's dangerous to think he is - but he is egocentric, self serving, morally vacuous and corrupt - he is not a good thing.

He loves Trump because they are the same - he has duel citizenship - his exit plan, once he has destroyed us with a shit no deal Brexit, it obvious

JaneJeffer · 19/07/2019 16:00

Is I love a beard. Of course he's not as good looking as his brother but not bad for a politician Grin

MrPan · 19/07/2019 16:00

Bog trotter? It's a universal as well. There are Punjabi, Italian, Farsi, Spanish that I've come across that translate to exactly this.
It's designed and used for people who are wealthy, suited, supposedly cultured but are ignorant. It's a very versatile term. In Ireland Johnson would be such.

Mydogmylife · 19/07/2019 16:01

@ChocChocButtons

Good grief!!! Totally despair of some folk

Piglet89 · 19/07/2019 16:06

@JaneJeffer

Just googled Eoghan Murphy. I’m aware it’s extremely politically incorrect to objectify such people in the public eye nowadays - but that recommendation has brightened my day no end and provided a real antidote to the blood pressure-boosting Boris.

😋

Isthisafreename · 19/07/2019 16:08

@MrPan - Bog trotter? It's a universal as well.

It may well be used elsewhere to mean people who are wealthy, suited, supposedly cultured but are ignorant. However, that is not what it means in an Irish context.

You stated you were being specific to an Irish context. Boris Johnson is not a bog trotter according to Irish usage. I didn't comment on your usage until you claimed to be using it in an Irish context.

S1naidSucks · 19/07/2019 16:10

Pity Leo plays for the other side.

What do you mean, by that?

Clavinova · 19/07/2019 16:10

His getting into Oxford was practically a foregone conclusion, post Eton.

Wiki says Boris Johnson won a King's Scholarship to Eton, "excelled in English and Classics, winning prizes in both, became secretary of the school debating society, and editor of the school newspaper" - sounds like a lazy boy who just blagged his way into Oxford...

bellinisurge · 19/07/2019 16:10

Can I have neither Johnson nor Corbyn? Is that an option? Heartily dislike them both.

mikado1 · 19/07/2019 16:11

I'm assuming she means he's quite fit but gay!

S1naidSucks · 19/07/2019 16:12

MrPan

Absolute bollocks. It’s never used by the Irish, to describe people who are wealthy, suited, supposedly cultured but are ignorant. Why are you arguing with actual Irish people over the meaning of the term?

bellinisurge · 19/07/2019 16:12

"Pity Leo plays for the other side." I think that means "it's a shame he's gay, because I fancy him" rather than some in-depth political observation. Wink

Isthisafreename · 19/07/2019 16:13

@S1naidSucks - Why are you arguing with actual Irish people over the meaning of the term?

Mansplaining (assuming the Mr is indicative of sex)?

JaneJeffer · 19/07/2019 16:14

You're welcome Piglet I know this is a serious thread but I'm just fed up of the lot of them so a little levity hurts no one.

S1naidSucks · 19/07/2019 16:16

Mansplaining (assuming the Mr is indicative of sex)?

😁 That’s a very good point.

jasjas1973 · 19/07/2019 16:17

Wiki says Boris Johnson won a King's Scholarship to Eton, "excelled in English and Classics, winning prizes in both, became secretary of the school debating society, and editor of the school newspaper" - sounds like a lazy boy who just blagged his way into Oxford...

Maybe he threatened the author with violence if they didn't write something favourable?

But i do agree, attacking Johnson's academic record is churlish to say the least, there is sooooooooo very much more to pick him up on.

MrPan · 19/07/2019 16:17

Johnson or Corbyn? It isn't the personalities at stake is it? It's the policies that they espouse and wish to enact.

So what is so wrong about Labour policies that lose over conservative piccies?

dustarr73 · 19/07/2019 16:17

@bellinisurge Got it in one

Piglet89 · 19/07/2019 16:17

@Clavinova Eton makes it easy with quality of teaching etc.

Anyway, he may well have won prizes for things he found relatively easy and in which he was engaged. But I bet he pays little attention to detail to the more boring, tedious admin kind of stuff that makes a county run. You know: like policy and legislation and that kind of thing. And so he is ENTIRELY inappropriate to be PM.

He’s a lazy, attention-seeking showman and I will hear no defence of him.