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"Why isn't he called Murphy like the rest of them?"

211 replies

GrouchoMrx · 19/07/2019 12:54

AIBU to think that Boris Johnson is not fit to be Prime Minister?

Boris Johnson questioned why the Irish Taoiseach Leo Varadkar isn't "called Murphy like all the rest of them?"

www.businessinsider.com/boris-johnson-angela-merkel-stasi-leo-varadkar-murphy-comments-brexit-2019-7?r=US&IR=T

No doubt Johnson will have common ground with Trump and will offer the NHS on a plate as part of a trade deal.

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Exforestoarent · 19/07/2019 15:00

I’d rather have Boris than senile antisemite Corbin...

Isatis · 19/07/2019 15:00

The 'EU regulations' he was disparaging turned out not to be EU regulations after all. The regulations were from the UK !

And the famous kippers were from the Isle of Man, which aren't subject to EU regulations anyway.

He could hardly have got this more comprehensively wrong if he'd been trying.

dustarr73 · 19/07/2019 15:01

He is what we call in Ireland a Gombeen man.

@Nannyamc and thats being diplomtic

Piglet89 · 19/07/2019 15:01

@mikado1 exactly this.

I am Irish (born in Northern Ireland). I am sick, sore and tired of Boris and his privileged background. His getting into Oxford was practically a foregone conclusion, post Eton. He knew half the people in his year at Balliol before even pitching up!

By contrast, my getting into Cambridge (where I studied law) was definitely not any kind of foregone conclusion. And for him then blatantly and offensively to make fun of Irish people by making jokes born or the ignorance of of his privilege - partly because people have all too rarely admonished him for such behaviour - well, it makes my blood boil.

Apparently during that row in her flat, his lover called him “spoiled”. I couldn’t agree more.

Isthisafreename · 19/07/2019 15:06

I'm not offended either. In order to be offended, I would need to have some level of respect for him.

He's a racist, misogynistic, opportunistic, incompetent gombeen man who will walk the UK into disaster. Comments like that simply reinforce my opinion.

TheCatThatDanced · 19/07/2019 15:07

ChocChocButtons - it'd be a good idea if you knew how to spell 'luvvies' before using the term... Grin

Gintonic · 19/07/2019 15:07

Uggghh it's like the early 80s when everyone used to make those Englishman/Irishman/Scotchman jokes isn't it. He's an embarrassment.

TheCatThatDanced · 19/07/2019 15:09

BoJo (have seen in public at a Young Conservatives Conference a few years ago (yes I know... was going to actually see Boris! and also saw being interviewed in a major town centre when he was mayor) is a racist, misogynistic, opportunistic, incompetent twat who sadly I fear deep down holds very similar views to his close ally - Trump.

I despair if he gets voted in and dearly hope he's assassinated (not even joking).

jasjas1973 · 19/07/2019 15:10

Amazing that anyone could consider Johnson & the Tories over a Labour administration,
Have you really been a sleep to the damage the Tories have caused the once Great Britain?

Though well done for blaming Corbyn within 4 pages.

Supporting Johnson could well lead to a Farage/BXP far right Govt, something not seen in Europe since the 30s.

powershowerforanhour · 19/07/2019 15:11

Apparently during that row in her flat, his lover called him “spoiled”.

I thought that was the most telling bit of the incident.

MrPan · 19/07/2019 15:13

Bog trotter? I was being specific to an Irish context. It's an assessment for an ignorant oaf. Yes I am of Irish descent. I know what it implies.
Don't point your finger.

Nannyamc · 19/07/2019 15:15

I wonder if BJ knows that Mr Murphy is Leos best friend and housing minister...google him...maybe BJ wants to poach him..they are one of a kind

CoolCarrie · 19/07/2019 15:18

mikado, unfortunately not, it was a comment Johnston made to someone else.

Isthisafreename · 19/07/2019 15:20

@MrPan - It's an assessment for an ignorant oaf.

Actually, it's not. It's a derogatory term used to describe Irish people by a certain element or a derogatory term used to describe rural Irish people by a certain type of urban (usually Dublin) people.

I thought it was inappropriate usage by you. I'm Irish.

ADropofReality · 19/07/2019 15:20

cardibach

Wow, the vile anti-semite signed a few posturing EDMs ("parliamentary graffiti"). Shame the rest of his record is vilification of Israel, calling Hamas and Hezbollah his friends, saying British Zionists "don't have an English sense of irony", defending a nakedly anti-semitic mural in Spitalfields, etc.

VickyEadie · 19/07/2019 15:28

He did no work and got a 2:1.

I refuse to believe that - you can't pass the Greats (classics) course at Oxford by 'doing no work'. A 2:1 in Boris's day was still a very good degree (as it still probably as from Oxford).

How many of us know people who claimed not to have done any work but still got a decent degree? They were all lying.

cardibach · 19/07/2019 15:28

ADropofReality I am truly, truly confused as to how anyone can accuse someone who has publically championed anti-racist causes hi whole life of racism. I simply cannot comprehend it. If him showing his views through his actual job of bringing and signing motions doesn’t do it for you, how about these figures about anti semitism in political parties. They show labour having levels of anti semitism lower than other parties and lower than the general population. They also show the levels have reduced since Corbyn took over.

"Why isn't he called Murphy like the rest of them?"
MrPan · 19/07/2019 15:28

Well that's your interpretation. I know it differently. Yes it was a non-Dublin folk reference but times change. It's far more generic and yes it's accurate for Johnson.

mikado1 · 19/07/2019 15:32

twitter.com/MrMichaelSpicer/status/1152185504554606592?s=19 Some light relief, maybe!

mikado1 · 19/07/2019 15:33

I would also have understood bogtrotter to mean country person, a là culchie.

MitziK · 19/07/2019 15:34

Boris 'pull off Brexit'?

He can't even pull off himself to avoid getting random women pregnant.

JaneJeffer · 19/07/2019 15:34

I wonder if BJ knows that Mr Murphy is Leos best friend and housing minister...google him
I recommend googling him. Yum.

Badbilly · 19/07/2019 15:35

Supporting Johnson could well lead to a Farage/BXP far right Govt, something not seen in Europe since the 30s.

...apart from Spain, Portugal, Greece, Yugoslavia, Hungary, which have all had Right-wing governments, Spain having been a dictatorship up until 1975.
There are probably more examples, but that’s all I can think of off the top of my head.

Piglet89 · 19/07/2019 15:36

@VickyEadie fair point. Jo, the brother, DID get a First in History from Oxford. Bet Boris was livid his brother bettered him and claimed to have done no work to make himself look just as clever. It’s the kind of thing he’d be at.

Patroclus · 19/07/2019 15:37

I not sure the term 'bog trotter' is very appropriate, especially considering the thread subject.