What makes a person 'common'?

[Karlwho]

In your opinion. Just interested.

TeachesOfPeaches - it’s not a toilet. It’s a loo or lavatory. Surprised you don’t know that.

@Gooigi no you bloody well shouldn't, just carry on as if you hadn't read this shit!

It's vocal fry is it not? Not voice fry 🤔

Why are people getting so defensive?

If you think "common" is an outdated concept, why do you care if other people still think like that?

As long as you don't treat people differently, the rest really doesn't matter.

You can't police the way that people think!

I wasn't attempting to police anything over MN

Just trying to put another school of thought over as is my right to do!

I don't mind if you disagree but at least entertain it for a minute

Why are people getting so defensive?
Because there is a cohort on MN who like to claim class doesn't exist and they don't notice any social markers or indicators at all and they never ever have a single negative thought about other people's choices.

The reality is that if their child had a friend called Shardonaaay who was 8 years old dressed in skimpy sexualised clothing, playing out meant hanging around the local shopping parade and eating a greggs pasty on the way home to Mum and her 13th partner of the year who sits on a sofa smoking and drinking a can of Stella at 1pm they would absolutely be curtailing the friendship out of school.

I exaggerate the stereotype for effect by the way.

Why are people getting so defensive?
Because there is a cohort on MN who like to claim class doesn't exist and they don't notice any social markers or indicators at all and they never ever have a single negative thought about other people's choices.

Having net curtains, taking dirty shoes off in your house, stacking plates etc does not affect anyone else.

Most people here are just snobbish, sorry. And who the hell says 'common' in the 21st century?😑

@adriannanneanne I could not agree with you more!

I went to a restaurant with my parents when I was about 12 and we took a friend of mine. My friend declared she had never eaten in a restaurant before. When I mentioned it privately to my father later and mentioned that I was surprised she didn't understand about menus etc he said that the rudest person at the table would be the one pointing out the mistake rather than the one making the mistake.

To judge someone on their curtains or car is vile.

Tbh I’d much rather be friends with someone who’s nice and fun who has net curtains and bad grammar, than a nasty snob who’s constantly looking down her nose at people

Interesting.
I would estimate that the vast majority of adults aged under 40ish have at least one tattoo, and yet lots of posters view them as common.
I would also say that using fake tan is very popular amongst the younger generation. When I was a teenager/ early 20s I used a sun bed, a lot, as did virtually all of my peers. Having a tan has been seen for a long time as preferable to bring pale.

Thigh your dad is fucking brilliant!

Most of these things don't affect anyone else, but many of them are social indicators.

I do quite a few of the things on this thread. They are class markers though.

Equally I hate the live laugh love quotes on walls and other things on this thread.

Would be people claiming there's no such thing as social indicators try to claim that boden and joules outfits, a 4x4, private tutors and shopping at Waitrose aren't markers of middle class suburbia?

Lola some of us are trying to flag up that there is more to human being than any of this shit!

Holding a knife like a pen
Tattoos
Balayage hair
Enjoying Strictly etc

A feature wall
Grey decor
Next furniture
Laminate floors

Don't waste your breath DT just come home.

Lolasome of us are trying to flag up that there is more to human being than any of this shit!
It's not like anyone saying it's the be all and end all. They're just silly observations.

There's a posh thread too. Have people been over there to tell everyone off?

Men walking around with no top on.

Saying toilet.

I notice differences in behaviour and choices that are stereotypical of certain "classes".

It doesn't mean I wouldn't befriend a person based on those differences.

I also don't believe people who claim that they don't notice such things.

A lot of the "common" things mentioned are just working class habits. I suspect that to many people being working class is synonymous with being "common".

I'm from a working class background and if someone doesn't want to befriend me because of it - ok.

I don't have a heavy regional accent but I do believe that if I did, it would have had a negative effect on my career.

It's disingenuous to say these things don't matter when it comes to job prospects. Citing the odd exception makes no difference.

findingmyfeet12
I have a regional accent and once someone in a workplace was surprised I had a degree. I did point out we still have education in our area.

You're right about there being a difference between working class vs common, but that distinction gets lost (either by people who don't know the difference or by virtue signalling middle class who think nobody should discuss common to chavvy things because the working classes need protecting).

It's news to me that mopping gravy up with bread was common. It's too tasty for me to consider stopping.

I also don't see tattoos as being "common".

I think it depends on the tattoo though. Hipster men with full sleeve tattoos and beards don't seem "common" IMO.

Someone said surnames as first names. Possibly true, but here in urban Scotland it can be a middle class marker too.

My sons friends at local posh primary include:

Innes
Logan
Lennox
Murray
Campbell
Struan

Etc. There's a Billy Connolly skit about it.

Spencer Matthews is not common.