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To Stop Them From Seeing Our Little Girl

223 replies

Milo2 · 05/07/2019 11:57

Hi everyone.

My husband has recently told me that when he was about 11 or 12 years old his cousin who was 20/21 at the time sexually abused him for a week whilst staying at my husbands family home.

Once the cousin and family had left my husband finally plucked up the courage to tell his mother. His mother's response was that my husband was to tell noone about this as it would mean they could no longer go on their holidays each year abroad to stay at the cousins house.

Later that year the cousin and his family were due to come back to my husbands house (as they always did at least once a year) and my husband kicked up a big fuss saying he didn't want the cousin to come back again. He begged them not to put him in his room so they let him stay somewhere else (possibly in his younger brother or two younger sister's rooms).

My husband asked his mother to tell his aunty (her sister) about the abuse but she refused. I have however recently found out that his mother's best friend knows about it and believe his dad knows too.

Traumatised, my husband has had to live with this his whole life. Continuing to see this cousin several times a year. My husband was silenced by his parents and he buried the whole thing until recently.

The first time he remembered it was about 3 years ago when his father came to our house extremely angry and it triggered the memory. My husband was really upset as his father behaves as though my husbands feelings don't matter.

They never listened to him when he spoke up about the abuse and they continued to expose my husband and his siblings (and many other children) to this paedophile cousin.

My husband and I could really do with some advice from someone that is un-biased. We know how we feel about it all. We are horrified and disgusted. However, it doesn't seem like others feel the same.

For example the first person we have told about this is my husband's dad's girlfriend who has lived with him for 10-15 years. Her response was that she feels sorry for my husband - however she doesn't want this coming in between her's and my husband's dad's relationship. We understand that, of course we do. But...

They are having the paedophile cousin over to stay for the summer as usual. When we asked her 'what about your grandchildren and all the other children that he will be around?' she simply replied 'yes, I'll keep an eye on him'.

Are we being unreasonable in thinking that this is unbelievable behaviour? Surely what my husbands parents did when he was 11/12 is aiding and abetting a paedophile? They continued to let him stay at their house with their children and many other children knowing what he had done! What he could potentially have done again?!! What he could be continuing to do now to this day?

What would you do if you were us? Our thoughts are that my husband's dad cannot be trusted with our new baby girl. We would never ever leave her with him or his girlfriend. We are thinking about telling him that unless he stops supporting this paedophile cousin he may well not be able to see our baby girl anymore.

We are extremely worried about all the other children that are being exposed to this very strange cousin too. If I had my way I would be reporting him to social services. He lives in another country though.

My husband is the best father anyone one could wish for and I'm so heartbroken to know that this is what he has gone through. I've watched him be controlled and manipulated by his father for years and have often felt sorry for him. But this.... this is something else.

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Kolo · 06/07/2019 10:35

www.survivorsuk.org/ Can help support male survivors of sexual abuse. They have an advice line/web chat that could help your husband in moving forward.

Guavaf1sh · 06/07/2019 10:37

Your poor husband! I’m with those saying report it. I’m amazed at his family!

AntennaReborn · 06/07/2019 10:41

Your poor husband Sad

I would definitely not let his family have unsupervised contact with your DD, they sound vile.

I hope your DH gets the support he needs, going through abuse is horrific enough, but to be betrayed by your parents who are supposed to protect you is just unthinkable.

nzborn · 06/07/2019 10:48

l can't read it all l have to answer Safety is not negotiable and especially when children are concerned. cut all contact, inform family members but they may be in denial if your husband is up to it report to police.
l had a friend who once got the courage to tell her mother that her grandfather was abusing her to which her mother said "well it didn't do me any harm"
This is insidious abusive behavior.
Your poor husband may not be the only victim in his family.

Chamomileteaplease · 06/07/2019 11:07

My heart goes out to you both.

Sorry if I have missed it, but I would also speak to your FIL's partner's adult child ie the parent of the grandchildren she is not protecting.

Complicated! But if the partner is allowing the cousin to be near children, those children's parents presumably don't know about the cousin coming over. And they need to know!

imsuchagrump · 06/07/2019 11:23

I haven't read the full thread but I'm glad you are reporting this man . I just want to say that threads like this make social media positive, I mean if you didn't start this thread who knows if you will have been able to talk to and come to a conclusion. ? What I read I shook my head in disbelief and shock is it denial or what but for me even a smidge of this and I wouldn't be able to condone because that's what they have done condone this . Anyway you don't need me to say what everyone else has said but I really hope you & dh can deal with this he is very brave as you are I hope you get support.

Lazydaisies · 06/07/2019 12:03

nzborn what you have said there about the mother saying it never did me any harm is also another very common dysfunction in families that experience abuse.

Victims of abuse react different to their experiences and one of them toes the party line of saying nothing and continuing relationships as of nothing happened and then the other victim unwilling to go along with that is the shit stirrer, the problem. This is very common too. All very toxic. And it is not just your parents you are cut off from, often siblings, aunts, uncles, cousins. The whole lot of them often will go against the victim. It is a huge can of worms. It is a huge societal issue that is just not remotely faced up to.

SimplySteveRedux · 06/07/2019 14:09

Yep, it's a criminal offence to aid and abet a paedophile.

Posted this on another thread yesterday, DPs Mother walked in on her husband raping their daughter and supported her husband calling her daughter a liar. She had previous form too, with a daughter going into care following rape.

My family have a lot of experience with rape, it's the psychological that fucks you up most. I'd rather be murdered than go through that again.

Given the laughable charging and sentencing of rapists and paedophiles, (one of the men above was out in two years), despite physical evidence I cannot imagine m(any) get charged/sentenced for aiding and abetting sadly. Makes my piss boil.

cooldarkroom · 06/07/2019 16:09

This is terrible, I do hope your DH goes to the police with this, could he report when the man was in the UK ? that way the police would be able to charge him as on UK soil.
There is a situation where I live where a close "friend" of a large family was discovered as having raped, with rape drug, nearly all the cousins as the children( & a number of other young people that knew this family,) he had baby for sat on many occcasions, bought tickets for events, taken them out on a day trips.... when finally one of the boys told his mother (due to the fact that his little brother had been invited somewhere) the man was arrested... after a long enquiry he was put in prsion & is in for a long time. However most of the people involved, the children & the parents, refused to go up on the stand. I think only 2 (now adult) victims were witnesses in the end
Its like they are ashamed or in denial. Frankly unbelievable

Bluetrews25 · 06/07/2019 17:47

Not unusual for people to brush it under the carpet and ostracise the abused. It's easier. For them. Shame on them.
MrMilo2 - looks like the whole of MN believe you and are sending you and Milo2 support through the ether. I hope you can get closure at some point.

Weenurse · 06/07/2019 23:09

I hope by reporting his past abuse, your DH gets support and advice.

Disfordarkchocolate · 07/07/2019 08:52

Your husband is being so strong. Let him know many people on here appreciate his strength and integrity in a truly terrible situation.

Even if there is no prosecution, his report will show that other adults knew and exposed their children to this pervert. Hopefully, this will mean their children are now protected.

jameswong · 07/07/2019 12:00

Is everyone involved this story British? Can the UK police prosecute the cousin?

Milo2 · 07/07/2019 14:05

I've just had the awful job of ringing my husbands dad. We thought he knew about the abuse but couldn't be sure. I said that my husband has told me that said cousin sexually abused him as a child and his response was 'so he claims'. He also said that my husbands mother had asked the cousin if he did it and he said no.

So they believed the 21/22 year old paedophile cousin over their 11/12 year old son. Both parents continuing to put not just their son and siblings at risk but other children too. Now all the grandchildren and others are currently at risk (reporting aside).

I feel sick to my stomach.

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Yeahnahmum · 07/07/2019 14:15

Cut all ties. Horrible people.
Wouldn't let my kids near them.

And also; report cousin to the police for sure!

Marnielovesclara · 07/07/2019 14:40

I'd go entirely no contact with both parents, and of course the paedophile cousin. Id make sure they all knew why and I'd report the cousin to police.

BumbleBeee69 · 07/07/2019 15:04

You're doing great OP, this is a massive amount of information to take in and the repercussions are just are huge. So well done for holding it together and seeing this through whilst supporting your Husband protecting your Child and cutting off the twats that think that peadophilia is acceptable. Stay strong and the best of wishes and support to you and your Husband at this difficult time. Flowers

NauseousMum · 07/07/2019 15:42

Yes because paedophiles are so quick to admit molestation and rape. Your fil is a disgrace.

What did you say in response?

Rachelover40 · 07/07/2019 16:37

I'm so sorry for your husband,the story is heartbraeking especially as he had no support from his parents. A not unusual situation, they couldn't face the unthinkable and chose not to believe.

Yes do get husband to go the police. The cousin may stlll be abusing kids and getting away with it. When he is prosecuted your in laws will finally realise what they aways knew deep down.

Take care, lots of hugs for your husband.

SusieOwl4 · 07/07/2019 17:05

Just a thought did your husband ought to speak to his siblings before his father does ? Do you think they are afraid of their father as well ?

Your husband is being very brave and doing the right thing .

bringbacksideburns · 07/07/2019 19:50

How did you end the conversation OP?

I would want nothing more to do with your partner's father personally.
Didn't you say he was a teacher? And a very forceful person? It's just too awful.

Milo2 · 07/07/2019 20:28

Thanks everyone. Your support is really helping me. I told my mum but she is on holiday so I can’t talk to her at the mo.

@NauseousMum ”Yes because paedophiles are so quick to admit molestation and rape. Your fil is a disgrace.”

”What did you say in response?”

If I’m honest I didn’t say anything because he then went on to say ”I don’t know why he’s bringing this up now.” Then started telling me how he was having a bad day.

I felt so shocked and horrified once again that I just wanted to get off the phone. I made my excuses and went.

We have a speech ready for when they ask to see us which will be something along the lines that I’ve been advised not to see you as you are aiding and abetting a paedophile which is a criminal offence.

They are soon going to realise how serious this is as the parents of all the children are being informed.

The other thing worth noting is that my husbands mother did believe my husband. I know this for a fact as she confided in a friend about it. The friend challenged her.

My husband’s mother almost back-tracked once challenged and put it down to ‘horseplay’. Wtf? Horseplay between a 11/12 year old and a 21/22 year old?

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Milo2 · 07/07/2019 20:37

”Just a thought did your husband ought to speak to his siblings before his father does ? Do you think they are afraid of their father as well ?”

Probably to both, but he’s finding this very difficult at the mo, so it’s one step at a time @SusieOwl4

Yes he used to be a teacher @bringbacksideburns Shocking as I thought teachers were trained in duty of care. His girlfriend worked in services.

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Milo2 · 07/07/2019 20:39

Social services. The girlfriend used to work as a pa in social services.

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Milo2 · 07/07/2019 20:47

Many people have mentioned rape on here but I must say my husband was not raped.

He was sexually abused over the course of a week which included physical contact whilst he was asleep and indecent exposure etc.

I don’t know what all your thoughts are about this?

It’s still classed as child sexual abuse, it’s still very serious and the cousin is a paedophile as far as the law is concerned?

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