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To Stop Them From Seeing Our Little Girl

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Milo2 · 05/07/2019 11:57

Hi everyone.

My husband has recently told me that when he was about 11 or 12 years old his cousin who was 20/21 at the time sexually abused him for a week whilst staying at my husbands family home.

Once the cousin and family had left my husband finally plucked up the courage to tell his mother. His mother's response was that my husband was to tell noone about this as it would mean they could no longer go on their holidays each year abroad to stay at the cousins house.

Later that year the cousin and his family were due to come back to my husbands house (as they always did at least once a year) and my husband kicked up a big fuss saying he didn't want the cousin to come back again. He begged them not to put him in his room so they let him stay somewhere else (possibly in his younger brother or two younger sister's rooms).

My husband asked his mother to tell his aunty (her sister) about the abuse but she refused. I have however recently found out that his mother's best friend knows about it and believe his dad knows too.

Traumatised, my husband has had to live with this his whole life. Continuing to see this cousin several times a year. My husband was silenced by his parents and he buried the whole thing until recently.

The first time he remembered it was about 3 years ago when his father came to our house extremely angry and it triggered the memory. My husband was really upset as his father behaves as though my husbands feelings don't matter.

They never listened to him when he spoke up about the abuse and they continued to expose my husband and his siblings (and many other children) to this paedophile cousin.

My husband and I could really do with some advice from someone that is un-biased. We know how we feel about it all. We are horrified and disgusted. However, it doesn't seem like others feel the same.

For example the first person we have told about this is my husband's dad's girlfriend who has lived with him for 10-15 years. Her response was that she feels sorry for my husband - however she doesn't want this coming in between her's and my husband's dad's relationship. We understand that, of course we do. But...

They are having the paedophile cousin over to stay for the summer as usual. When we asked her 'what about your grandchildren and all the other children that he will be around?' she simply replied 'yes, I'll keep an eye on him'.

Are we being unreasonable in thinking that this is unbelievable behaviour? Surely what my husbands parents did when he was 11/12 is aiding and abetting a paedophile? They continued to let him stay at their house with their children and many other children knowing what he had done! What he could potentially have done again?!! What he could be continuing to do now to this day?

What would you do if you were us? Our thoughts are that my husband's dad cannot be trusted with our new baby girl. We would never ever leave her with him or his girlfriend. We are thinking about telling him that unless he stops supporting this paedophile cousin he may well not be able to see our baby girl anymore.

We are extremely worried about all the other children that are being exposed to this very strange cousin too. If I had my way I would be reporting him to social services. He lives in another country though.

My husband is the best father anyone one could wish for and I'm so heartbroken to know that this is what he has gone through. I've watched him be controlled and manipulated by his father for years and have often felt sorry for him. But this.... this is something else.

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flamingjune123 · 06/07/2019 08:50

I have no doubts that, without doubt in this scenario, I would be reporting to the police

pollypenguin01 · 06/07/2019 09:09

Keep your DC away from all of the people involved in this. Your DH mother, father, aunt, step mother, etc cannot be trusted to keep your DC safe. Even if the cousin wasn’t around they have proven to be completely incapable of assessing risk or ultimately being decent human beings. Your DC doesn’t need those types of people in her life.

Your DH should definitely go to the police. If not for himself then for all the other people his Cousin may have hurt or may still hurt.

TheRealShatParp · 06/07/2019 09:17

OP, your poor husband. His parents are unbelievable. Do not allow your grandchildren to stay with them, they will turn a blind eye if, god forbid, anything happened. I wouldn’t want to know them at all to be honest. Allowing something like that to happen just so they don’t rock the boat or ruin their holidays is absolutely disgusting.

Your husbands cousin should not be around children at all and I do think that anyone that knows what he is capable of have a responsibility to ensure that this does not happen. He must be reported.

It sounds like an awful situation for you and your husband OP.

TheRealShatParp · 06/07/2019 09:18

*children, not grandchildren

Kanga83 · 06/07/2019 09:18

Oh your poor husband. I feel sick reading this and it's brought a lot of feelings back from my childhood (not family member). Do not let your child near this creature or anyone enabling that behaviour. His parents have allowed it for the holiday home, to keep up appearances. Not a chance in hell would any of them be allowed near my kids. An enabler is as bad as the abuser.
'Keeping an eye' is not enough if there's any chance he's looking at children thinking his disgusting things.

Passthecherrycoke · 06/07/2019 09:25

It’s the police you need for sexual abuse of your husband. There is no point contacting nspcc or I would say, SS, as he doesn’t even live in this country. But you can ask the police to investigate the historical sexual abuse.

It goes without saying you shouldn’t allow your children near him.

I think your FIL sounds horrible. But, I’m going to be honest here- forgetting about your DHs awful childhood for the moment- your DH hasn’t done anything about this situation for what, a few years? If he is scared to report to the police (is he really suddenly going to be ok doing this?) then I imagine he can understand why others are told scared to take action to?

TheSerenDipitY · 06/07/2019 09:29

i would be calling them pedo apologists, like if his dad calls and wants to talk to your husband.. yell honey the pedo apologist is on the phone for you... want me to tell him to fuck off? the GF turns up and knocks, oh its you, honey your pedo apologist's girlfriend is here, and fuck it i would go to ALL the family functions and point at the pedo and yell get your filthy hands off that child you kiddy fucker... they want quiet and fun family time... they wouldnt be getting it, id be telling fun family stories... haha remember all those summers when we went to stay at pedos place and how he used to fuck me up the ass and you said i had to shut up so we could all still have free holidays... lol such fun mum... great wedding stories, awesome at birthdays and anniversaries, legendary at funerals

Adversecamber22 · 06/07/2019 09:41

Your DH really needs therapy and the fact that he has become a parent is the time many people have memories return.

You absolutely need to cut off his entire family. Their denial does put your DD at risk. Some abusers abuse in plain sight, the more subtle stuff even with other people in the same room. The comment about they would watch him isn’t enough.

I want to write one positive thing in this terrible situation, I’m so glad your DH has managed to tell you. He must feel so safe and loved by you.

Kanga83 · 06/07/2019 09:49

Do not do what TheSeren says. As someone who has gone through it believe me that post is more insensitive to the feelings of the person who has gone through it rather than calling out the abuser. It will open up a floodgate or feeling that will be difficult to deal with. This is not a sport or a spectacle. This needs to be dealt with calmly in the way your DH feels best to deal with it- however that aside as the mother you absolutely have every right to say XYZ will be going nowhere near my children due to the actions and attitude of the past and the support the cousin still has.

Milo2 · 06/07/2019 09:51

My husband's mum passed away over 15 years ago.

"I would imagine he isn't the only victim" Agreed. This is what worries us. Who else has he done it to? Who else is he potentially doing it to now? This guy needs to be monitored by the police.

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BoomyBooms · 06/07/2019 09:55

Anyone who can hear what happened and isn't appalled, who doesn't immediately want to cut all contact with cousin and anyone who supports him, should not be trusted around your baby.

A normal healthy persons reaction should be horror and refusing to allow this man anywhere near them or their family again!

For someone who's reaction is anything different, it makes me wonder what they have been exposed to in their lives that makes them feel like his behaviour and 'just keeping an eye' is acceptable.

I feel so sorry for your husband, every time someone reacts with disbelief or not taking him seriously, they are perpetuating the abuse.

OP I'm afraid because you both know the truth that you have a responsibility now to take steps to protect the other children he could come into contact with. You absolutely must report to the police. Who even knows what he is doing in his own country?? I imagine that this might scare your husband, the police should help him access therapy so he has some more support and help getting to grips with the abuse he has received.

Milo2 · 06/07/2019 09:56

Keep your DC away from all of the people involved in this. Your DH mother, father, aunt, step mother, etc cannot be trusted to keep your DC safe. Even if the cousin wasn’t around they have proven to be completely incapable of assessing risk or ultimately being decent human beings.

Sad but so very true.

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Milo2 · 06/07/2019 09:58

"OP, your poor husband. His parents are unbelievable. Do not allow your grandchildren to stay with them, they will turn a blind eye if, god forbid, anything happened. I wouldn’t want to know them at all to be honest. Allowing something like that to happen just so they don’t rock the boat or ruin their holidays is absolutely disgusting."

Exactly how I feel. I'm praying he sees sense.

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Milo2 · 06/07/2019 10:04

"I want to write one positive thing in this terrible situation, I’m so glad your DH has managed to tell you. He must feel so safe and loved by you."

I hope so. It seems like I'm the only one who has his back right now. The others are putting their own selfish agendas before him and the safety of all the grandchildren etc. Even the girlfriend's own grandchildren. Pretty shocking to me.

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Milo2 · 06/07/2019 10:06

"This needs to be dealt with calmly in the way your DH feels best to deal with it- however that aside as the mother you absolutely have every right to say XYZ will be going nowhere near my children due to the actions and attitude of the past and the support the cousin still has."

Yes. (Need to read back and see what the other person said!). My husband is in control. I know he feels like it's spiralling out of his control though.

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Milo2 · 06/07/2019 10:10

"Anyone who can hear what happened and isn't appalled, who doesn't immediately want to cut all contact with cousin and anyone who supports him, should not be trusted around your baby."

"A normal healthy persons reaction should be horror and refusing to allow this man anywhere near them or their family again!"

Yep! My husband wants to show his dad this thread to make him see sense. If the girlfriend was also reading it my message to her is - what on earth is wrong with you? Your initial reaction is extremely worrying. Especially as you used to work for social services!!!!!!!

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Milo2 · 06/07/2019 10:14

"I feel so sorry for your husband, every time someone reacts with disbelief or not taking him seriously, they are perpetuating the abuse."

I know. Even I feel feel guilty for talking about it and there has never been any doubt in my mind that he's telling the truth.

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bringbacksideburns · 06/07/2019 10:16

If you don't report to the Police then at the very least, with this knowledge you need to make sure all the parents know who may be leaving their children with this person. Then they can decide what to do.

I'm not sure I could ever entertain anyone who was complicit with this abuse OP. His family sound horrendous. I would not want them in my house again.

I hope your DH is OK and looks into getting support and help.

HisBetterHalf · 06/07/2019 10:17

Go NC with them all. To tell achild not to speak about sexual abuse all for the sake of their holidays is utterly unforgiveable. Report the dirty bastard

Milo2 · 06/07/2019 10:19

Don't worry everyone he's being reported.

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Jeremybearimybaby · 06/07/2019 10:27

It is our duty as parents to protect our children from paedophiles and those who facilitate paedophiles. They have poor decision making skills, and terrible judgement, so are not safe people.
Trust your instincts and don't let others minimise this. Keeping an eye on the kids? Because no one has ever been abused in plain sight before Hmm
So sorry for your husband Flowers I hope he can find peace.

Awwlookatmybabyspider · 06/07/2019 10:29

That's great, Milo. I imagine it must have taken your poor dh a lot of courage. I don't like to say well done though, as to me that's like implying its a failure when people haven't got that courage and strength.
I also wouldn't be surprised that due to his courage more relatives will come forward. When you think about it. He can't have only been a nonce for a week, can he.

Awwlookatmybabyspider · 06/07/2019 10:30

Oh and if I had my way the paedo apologists would be getting done, too.

Milo2 · 06/07/2019 10:30

"He can't have only been a nonce for a week, can he."

Exactly. I said the same to my husband last night.

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Milo2 · 06/07/2019 10:33

"Oh and if I had my way the paedo apologists would be getting done, too."

Yep, it's a criminal offence to aid and abet a paedophile. Something for the father of my husband to think about even if he has no morals when it comes to supporting this guy!!!!

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