To wonder honestly what must go on in the minds of some men?

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I've just taken my niece out for lunch. She's 16 and with the arrival of the weather she's been wearing a t-shirt and a mini skirt with her converse. Typical look for your typical teen but for just during lunch alone she was accosted by 2 different men who asked for her number. Both men clearly middle-aged and trying their luck. I admit she does look older than a teen but sheer audacity of these men hitting on a 16 year old girl really riled me.

I had my bum pinched in a crowded market/mall overseas when I was five. I told my mum in a "mummy, that man just did a funny thing!" way.

It was only as an adult that I understood why she reacted with a death grip on my arm and a face like thunder till she found my dad and siblings and we could get the hell out of there.

If I as a 30-something y.o woman were to approach a 20 year old male and ask him if he was single and tried to get his number we'd all be calling me trash. Yet a 50 year old man thinks it's somehow okay to approach a 16 year old girl. WTF.

I dread this with My DD.

Im always taking my sister (14)out and have lost my rag a couple of times, one time in particular on the underground a man must have been late 40's peered down her top (she is busty) and said "Coooor" ashamed to say i lost it big time!

Another time she was on the bus in her uniform and a creep was trying to push himself into her from behind, a fellow male passenger ripped him a new one and he jumped off the bus. It really is depressing.

I'll also add - that this sort of thing doesn't happen when she's out with her dad. She's very tall but that's no reason at all.

It is behaviour quite deliberately directed at girls and very young women to make them feel scared and vulnerable in public spaces.
There is nothing more sickening and repulsive as a young girl than being pestered and leered at by hideous old men. It turns the stomach. It is not just about threat but being subjected to physical disgust. They should not have to put up with it. We all agree dog shit in the street is not ok, well nor is this.

It reminds me of the behavior of characters that Sid James played in the old Carry On films - how any young girl could ever think these wrinkled old crocks are attractive is beyond me. At best they are laughable, at worst they are just creepy disgusting old gits. We must all be brave enough to give them the mouthful they deserve.

@Bookworm4 I'm unsure why you've taken a bee in your bonnet when clearly many, many posters here have also said they're uncomfortable confronting men bigger, stronger than they are. You can get shitty as you like but you're misreading what I typed.

In my original post I CLEARLY stated "checked out". In English, this means "looked at". How does that then in your nasty little brain become "gets verbal"? You make all the bullshit assumptions you like, it doesn't change the fact that you've made up your own little story about what I wrote.

Again, as many other have repeated, I feel vulnerable when confronted with large, middle aged men. You may feel stronger, more able to confront them, I don't. Laying the blame at women's doors for men's shitty behaviours allows men to continue their shitty lives.

I do think the construction industry has come on in leaps and bounds though in terms of eradicating this behaviour from on site employees. Most large firms have very strict policies in place for workers. And they do seem to be adhered to.
Have to say that, and it’s not just cos no one wolf whistles at me any more.

When I was about 15 I used to have to walk past a row of shops. One of them was a grocers and more often or not they had a delivery and I was always heckled at by the driver. Worse , when my friend and I used to buy an ice cream from the van that came around the street, the ice cream man would run his hand up your arm when he handed you the ice cream, we must of been around 10 at the time.

My daughter is mid twenties now but been getting this everywhere since she was 16. It's amazing who hits on her and how hopeful they are. All sorts of randomers and inappropriate men.

I mean, do they talk to their own daughters that way??

This^^

To be honest I might look, look mind, not gaze or leer at an attaractive 18 year old and whistfully think i wish I was her age again!, but fecking ask for her phone number!???

Some it seems have absolulty no bloody Moral compass at all:(

I can remember standing in a play park, waiting for my mother, aged 12 or so. Wearing a school duffel coat, with my satchel over my shoulder (it was a long time ago!) This bloke came up, about mid 20s I guess, and just straight out asked if I was a virgin. Caught unawares, I answered in the affirmative, whereupon he asked me if I would like not to be. I didn't answer that one and fortunately he walked off then. My mother appeared just then and I recounted the conversation to her and she raced across the park after him, bellowing about what a dirty pig he was, and when she caught him she was going to wash his mouth out with soap

I must admit, I was a bit embarrassed at the time (she was causing a scene) but my God I admire her now. That bloke was lucky she didn't catch him.

And on another occasion, confronting the 'local perv' (known for his interest in young girls) in the woods, as I stood surrounded by 3 of my 4 big brothers, for the time he'd tried to entice me away from right outside my home. She had no fear.

It was, and is, disgusting that some men view women and girls as pieces of meat solely there for their own enjoyment/use.

@FudgeBrownie2019
Your reason for saying nothing is because she’s not your child so please stop backtracking and saying oh I’m a vulnerable little woman 🙄

@FudgeBrownie2019
*Because she's not mine I'm always torn about saying something, but it's vile
Doesn’t matter whose child she is.

One of the benefits of getting older is that this rarely happens these days (And yes it does occasionally still happen).

It's quite vile that some men still think they 'own' any female they come across. It's especially vile when it's children.

Yanbu. I watched a man drive really slow to check out 3 young girls earlier, they must have been 13, just wearing shorts and a t-shirt.
I'd love to carry a water pistol.

This happened to my dd at 15 she looks about 19.
She said I'm jail bait and the guy and his mates were so apologetic, I was close behind her as she walks faster than me.

Some men just actually think they are older, that doesn't make them bad, I can't believe some of these comments.
My ds have both been caught out like this when they were young and single. The number of 14 year old in bars, I blame the parents not the men.

I don't miss being a teenager. So much unwanted attention from middle-aged and upwards men. Wolf whistles from cars when I was in my school uniform and so on. Yuk

I have so many examples of this shit from when I was a kid I don't know where to start.

I remember in particular school sports day - I was 14 I think. End of the day, waiting for my parents to pick me up. Mate of mine's dad shows up to pick her up. He was really insistent on giving me a lift home, I kept telling him, no, my parents are on the way, sorry. My friend looked utterly embarrassed, oh dad, chatting up 17 year olds again eh. He kept 'well let me know when you're free, I'll pick you up' etc. Wtaf. His daughter was right there!

I swear to god if anyone pulls this shit with DD I am going to confront them with a loud 'what the actual fuck did you JUST say/do???'.

I care not about sounding like a fish wife

Grrrrrrrrr

I shouldn't read this thread, it will me worry and hate men even more. Someone needs to tell men they are ugly and gross and hardly anyone likes them.

My youngest DD is 17 and was shopping with me, a man came up and whispered in her ear that he was following her around just to look at her bum
I started shouting at him and he wasn't the slightest bit put out. And I'm very loud and sweary.
DD can never say anything because she's upset and embarrassed.
She was at a bus stop last week, her and friends were going to a gig.
One of the boys noticed an elderly man taking photos. He took his phone of him and it was photos of the girls legs and trying to get up skirt photos. He was made to delete them. DD said there were others that weren't her or her friends.
He then got on the bus with them and kept smiling and giving them the thumbs up. His wife was with him

My grandmother told me s story if when she was at school in the 1930s. She was on s train platform, on her way to school and a man came up to her, on a train station platform and tried to lift her skirt.

It shame's me that this has never stopped and a future that my DDS will have to contend with

I think sadly that some men, whilst hating someone doing that to their daughter, would happily behave that way towards their daughters friends.

Fortunately I've never had this with DD (age 15) but in my head I hope I'd say "she's a CHILD, you sick PERVERT" loudly enough that other people could hear.

I've managed similar when being harrassed myself, so I hope I'd do it. But publicly shaming people, and making it clear just how sick their actions are, seem to be the only hope of stopping this behaviour. You'd think that grown adults could control themselves, but obviously not.