To wonder honestly what must go on in the minds of some men?

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I've just taken my niece out for lunch. She's 16 and with the arrival of the weather she's been wearing a t-shirt and a mini skirt with her converse. Typical look for your typical teen but for just during lunch alone she was accosted by 2 different men who asked for her number. Both men clearly middle-aged and trying their luck. I admit she does look older than a teen but sheer audacity of these men hitting on a 16 year old girl really riled me.

Goodness knows what they’re thinking. As if she’s going to say oooh the man of my dreams to some old codger in the cafe.
Entitlement, delusion, doing it to belittle her because they are so inadequate. Who knows but it’s bloody annoying.
What did she say to them? Just out of interest.

It’s happened to my DD. She’s 12 and absolutely doesn’t look anywhere near 16.

Men can be absolutely revolting.

I think OLD would explain this level of entitled behaviour on the part of these men.

OTOH, having said your DN looks older than her age, what makes you so accurate about 1. the age, and implicitly 2. the inappropriate nature of the men's behaviour?

It’s happened to my DD. She’s 12 and absolutely doesn’t look anywhere near 16

Barf.

Maybe you should have offered them a napkin...

So revolting. I remember when I was 16 I was taken out to dinner by my dad as a revision break from GCSE’s, and the waiter in the restaurant kept on talking about how I was his girlfriend (including a knowing wink and an ‘of course’ when he said he was my dad). I felt so upset and uncomfortable about it. I remember another time I was out with my great aunt aged 14 or 15 and the waiter in a restaurant asked me if I could confirm how old I was because he had a bet going with the other waiters. Men who think teenagers are fair game for being approached are repulsive - and they absolutely know what they are doing.

What did she say to them? Just out of interest.

She laughed it off and said she had a boyfriend which she currently doesn't. At 16 she's already learning to appease men so they don't get aggressive towards her. I think it reminded me of when I used to have to do the same. I asked her if this happens a lot and she said yes. Even when she used to be clearly in her school uniform.

I honestly don't know what to tell you.

What are these men actually thinking?

Can you imagine some middle aged woman going up to a young lad with her phone number?

These men are disgusting.

AND this wouldn't have happened if she would have been with her dad/uncle whatever
But with you, she's fair game?

Makes me sick

Last summer an old man watched my daughter walk past him with an obvious erection that he was stroking through his trousers. She didn't notice (thankfully). I was walking a small distance behind not obviously with her. She was 9 at the time. Whilst she looks older she doesn't look adult (still no excuse and sexual harrasment). Some men can be so hideous. I didn't call the police - I should have - but these things are so normalised in.our society that it didn't occur to me till a lot later (and she was blissfully unaware).

It's the entitlement that women and girls are there to be amusement.

It’s horrible and creepy. My DD is 11 and being stared at makes her distressed and self conscious. Girls are people with feelings not objects for gratification. But there are plenty who will say this is PC gone mad I am sure

Never underestimate the male ego.
I can still remember the humiliation of being told how nice my 'tits' were by a middle aged man whilst I was wearing my school uniform at age 14. I was too young to understand he was the one with the problem.

OTOH, having said your DN looks older than her age, what makes you so accurate about 1. the age, and implicitly 2. the inappropriate nature of the men's behavior?

She might not look 16, but I bet she doesn't look middle-aged.

I remember when I was 18 and worked in a Pub and one of the locals was saying me and this other man in his fifties should date, and there was nothing wrong with an age gap. I’m sorry wtf!!

My DH came back from taking the kids out recently and mentioned a couple of men looking at DD. She’s 9 and very much looks her age. He was pretty freaked out and couldn’t understand it.

I remember being chatted up from middle aged men from being 12 and up. I always looked older but not older than 17 at a push
It's grim, even when I was 18/19/20 why would they think I want to date a 50yo?!

Frankly it shouldn't matter if she looks older than she is, it's innapropriate at 12,16,18,20 all the way up to 125.

I'm a dad of 2 DDS both under 14 and it absolutely disgusts me. Even when I talk to men who do this they genuinely cannot get what I am saying or my point. It's their eyes, their cock their entitlement, at most I've ever got is "sorry mate didn't realise you were her dad"

It seriously pisses me off, seriously

Get her to tell them that she doesn't work in a caring capacity, but if they Google 'care for the elderly', they should be able to find somebody who can help them.

Boak.

Yes, they’re sorry they might have upset you, but not them, because young girls in their minds aren’t actually people who count.
I don’t know how you don’t lose your rag with that, tbh

Vile.

And people complain when we want female-only spaces.

Entitled and deluded
What gets me is that you can have some bloke, big belly hanging out, pink lobster skin but in his mind he’s a god and feels free to cat call and make a comment “she’d get it”. Whereas women seem much more self-critical. Maybe there is the odd female (a drunken group of hens maybe?) who cat calls but generally it’s not the thing.
I used to dread encountering work men in the street when I walked to school. Like if you had to take a detour cos of roadworks.

My answer for the 12 year old one would be .... she is 12 I suggest you leave before I call the police. They quite clearly can see how old she is. That is not right at all

DS1 is 13 and has a close friend who is the same year at school as him. They're both very tall and look older than their years and a couple of times when I've taken them out I've clocked older men checking her out. Because she's not mine I'm always torn about saying something, but it's vile.

It’s disgusting. I remember all this crap from my teens, although I’m early 30s now it happens much less. I worry for my own DD because of these kinds of entitled, creepy and likely dangerous men. Most of them know fine well they’re perving on underage girls.

That way lies insanity

Heaven knows what goes on in their heads. They either genuinely don’t realise they are paunchy, grey and past their prime, or they are predatory and hope to take advantage of teenaged inexperience.

I feel pity for the first and would happily take a cattleprod to the second...if it was allowed.