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AIBU to think that this child should be allowed to compete as a girl? Transgender topic.

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Cassort · 02/07/2019 00:53

www.bbc.co.uk/news/video_and_audio/headlines/48800075/transgender-skater-fighting-to-compete?ocid=socialflow_facebook&ns_mchannel=social&ns_campaign=bbcnews&ns_source=facebook&fbclid=IwAR3SHOZZproHs8lkaYi9tz5VcKPnE9xQRt7AR8m8rRPu5lPTJkp1m1808Os

It's an 11 year old (born male) ice skater. There's a little video where to me she looks female.

I daren't put this on the feminism board, but AIBU to think that in 20 years time we will look back in shame at how we have treated transgendered individuals?

I just put myself in those shoes for 5 hours. What on earth would I think? How much hate would I feel? How fucked up/strange/weird would I feel?

I have a very uneasy feeling in my soul about the vociferous opposition to transgenderism on MN currently. It doesn't sit comfortably with me.

I came across this story just now and it's typical of I suppose what the feminist MNers want transgender people to face. I.e. that they can't...

Should she compete as a girl? Or AIBU?

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Eaudear · 02/07/2019 20:39

but if he feels like a girl, wants to be a girl, acts like a girl and thinks he is a girl,

None of these things actually matter a shite if he is actually a boy.

What do you mean by 'acts like a girl' by the way? What do girls 'act' like?

MrsMiggins37 · 02/07/2019 20:41

YABU.

As much sympathy as I may have on a personal level for the child, they are not female and should not be able to compete as such. Why should the rights of women and girls to compete in a fair contest be prejudiced by the rights of one or 2 people to compete as the gender they “feel” they are.

Prawnofthepatriarchy · 02/07/2019 20:41

You're pissed, OP. You're making yourself look terrible. Have a glass of water and go to bed. Please.

Cassort · 02/07/2019 20:41

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Oblomov19 · 02/07/2019 20:42
Grin Sorry. Back to the original subject.

? Wink

Eaudear · 02/07/2019 20:42

Jesus Cassort go to bed for fucks sake, you are embarrassing yourself.

AlansLeftMoob · 02/07/2019 20:43

AIBU to think that there shouldn't be any more Trans threads and maybe everyone could mind their own business? Or is that too much to ask?

AyeRobot · 02/07/2019 20:43

Cringe

JacquesHammer · 02/07/2019 20:43

Fuck me you love a gender stereotype OP Grin

Oblomov19 · 02/07/2019 20:43

I'm Not drinking enough! For this thread. Clearly.

Eaudear · 02/07/2019 20:44

I can only assume that we must have 100 mothers of future Olympians posting here - such is the vigour with which they're taking on this argument.

Are you trans? No? Why do you give a shit then? If you can only care about things which directly affect you?

Cassort · 02/07/2019 20:44

Prawn honey - pissed or otherwise, I'm the only one making sense here.

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ChardonnaysPrettySister · 02/07/2019 20:45

Is this the biggest meltdown since Chernobyl?

JacquesHammer · 02/07/2019 20:45

I'm the only one making sense here

Yeah clear sign you’ve had too much

Fibbke · 02/07/2019 20:45

a tranny

I'm as gender critical as they come and even I wouldn't use that phrase. Go to bed OP.

Oliversmumsarmy · 02/07/2019 20:46

are we really endangering the lives of women and female sport by letting the lad just compete in the girl's competition

For every little boy being told he is a girl who gets to compete on the girls team There is an actual girl being denied a place

That place could lead to a place at a school or eventually a university that could change that girls life.

In some countries who knows where that little girl could end up without having a place in that competition.

We have already seen the effect of letting boys compete for girls scholarships in the US.

We might as well just say women aren’t allowed to compete because the cards are stacked against them.

Now you have to beat the men to get a place in the women’s team.

Cassort · 02/07/2019 20:48

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FromEden · 02/07/2019 20:48

The only person using transphobic slurs around here is the OP. I guess they didn't get the reaction they wanted

Cassort · 02/07/2019 20:49

For every little boy being told he is a girl who gets to compete on the girls team There is an actual girl being denied a place

So you would rather deny the little boy?

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Michelleoftheresistance · 02/07/2019 20:50

20 years ago homosexuals were given electric shock treatment to cure them of their 'notions of gayness'. Put that in your pipe, smoke it, and fucking think about it.

Are you aware the political Trans lobby rejects the right of female homosexuals to choose female only partners and seeks to ban women from Prides who won't be cured of their 'notions of gayness'?

JacquesHammer · 02/07/2019 20:50

So you would rather deny the little boy?

He isn’t being denied anything. He can compete in the competition for people with penises.

Rocket science it ain’t.

smeerf · 02/07/2019 20:50

The boy can compete against the other boys. The girl doesn't have another choice.

AyeRobot · 02/07/2019 20:50

The boy can compete in the boys team. What's your problem with that?

Eaudear · 02/07/2019 20:50

So you would rather deny the little boy?

Deny the little boy what? He can compete... With the boys.

Ascreed · 02/07/2019 20:50

So you would rather deny the little boy?
A little boy can compete in the boys team. That's not denying them the ability to compete.