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AIBU to think that this child should be allowed to compete as a girl? Transgender topic.

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Cassort · 02/07/2019 00:53

www.bbc.co.uk/news/video_and_audio/headlines/48800075/transgender-skater-fighting-to-compete?ocid=socialflow_facebook&ns_mchannel=social&ns_campaign=bbcnews&ns_source=facebook&fbclid=IwAR3SHOZZproHs8lkaYi9tz5VcKPnE9xQRt7AR8m8rRPu5lPTJkp1m1808Os

It's an 11 year old (born male) ice skater. There's a little video where to me she looks female.

I daren't put this on the feminism board, but AIBU to think that in 20 years time we will look back in shame at how we have treated transgendered individuals?

I just put myself in those shoes for 5 hours. What on earth would I think? How much hate would I feel? How fucked up/strange/weird would I feel?

I have a very uneasy feeling in my soul about the vociferous opposition to transgenderism on MN currently. It doesn't sit comfortably with me.

I came across this story just now and it's typical of I suppose what the feminist MNers want transgender people to face. I.e. that they can't...

Should she compete as a girl? Or AIBU?

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Cassort · 02/07/2019 20:28

There's a reason this thread has 590 posts. It's because I've hit on a raw nerve - ie. the logical one in your bigoted brains.

There have been maybe 3 or 4 logical, rational arguments, the other 586 posts have been personal insults, sneering and random lunacy. Great debate there alright.
Enjoy your evening guys! I'm off to get drunk! Wink

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Oblomov19 · 02/07/2019 20:28

Is this thread going to be deleted?
Shame.

Eaudear · 02/07/2019 20:28

When threads like this are started, I often wonder if its a ploy to show up the trans agenda for what it is for the lurkers, in one handy thread.

They always go the same way. Opening OP, followed by pages and pages of reasoned argument and counter argument, followed by OP getting more and more ridiculous with each post, whilst not having a single argument to back up what they are saying.

Cassort · 02/07/2019 20:29

@JacquesHammer Have you had a transgender bloke try to join your team? No? Didn't think so.

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JacquesHammer · 02/07/2019 20:29

I'm off to get drunk

Mate, you’re displaying the debating ability of someone who has sunk a skinful already. Try and do better.

Eaudear · 02/07/2019 20:30

Did you Google any of those names I mentioned above Cassort?

JacquesHammer · 02/07/2019 20:30

Have you had a transgender bloke try to join your team? No? Didn't think so

We had an enquiry from the parent of a junior who was trans yes.

HTH your stream of drivel.

Oblomov19 · 02/07/2019 20:31

Hey Jacques did you see that I disagreed with you, and quoted you on another thread, the other day?

Cassort · 02/07/2019 20:32

To JacquesHammer
I also played rugby. And getting twatted by 5'10" women built like shit brick houses ain't fucking pretty either. So I ran fast lol.

I can't imagine rugby is in danger of a burly rugby player decided he's a woman and taking you down.......... Stop with the ridiculous.

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HugsAreMyDrugs · 02/07/2019 20:32

I'm off to get drunk!

Given how irrational and angry you are when you're allegedly sober I really don't think that's a good idea.

JacquesHammer · 02/07/2019 20:32

Hey Jacques did you see that I disagreed with you, and quoted you on another thread, the other day?

No. I don’t have the quote notification turned on.

Bit odd to mention on another thread though. Was it that important?! Grin

RageAgainstTheVendingMachine · 02/07/2019 20:32
JacquesHammer · 02/07/2019 20:33

I also played rugby. And getting twatted by 5'10" women built like shit brick houses ain't fucking pretty either. So I ran fast lol

Utter bullshit.

I can't imagine rugby is in danger of a burly rugby player decided he's a woman and taking you down

Google Hannah Mouncey. Nobody thought it would happen in ARL either...

HugsAreMyDrugs · 02/07/2019 20:34

And getting twatted by 5'10" women built like shit brick houses ain't fucking pretty either.

And getting twatted by a 5'10 bloke will be a hell of a lot less pretty...

Oblomov19 · 02/07/2019 20:35

No.
But I just wanted to mention it!!

Oblomov19 · 02/07/2019 20:35

Only coz it's rare.

Butchyrestingface · 02/07/2019 20:36

I don't know what it must be like for her. It's beyond my realm of comprehension as I've never been confused about my sexuality in my entire life

Some folks get confused about the difference between ‘gender’ and ‘sex’. This one doesn’t know what ‘sexuality’ refers to. 🤷‍♀️

FromEden · 02/07/2019 20:36

OP might want to look up the actual meaning of the word bigot. The only person displaying those characteristics is themselves tbh

Cassort · 02/07/2019 20:36

OMG - the trans people are taking over!

Women go into an hysterical meltdown.

Meh.

I wasn't even that concerned about the issue lol. It doesn't affect me remotely. I just - quite simply- felt for the little lad being discriminated against.

Ok, maybe he should have competed in the boys comp, but if he feels like a girl, wants to be a girl, acts like a girl and thinks he is a girl, are we really endangering the lives of women and female sport by letting the lad just compete in the girl's competition?

Most boys that age I know would rather not compete at all than have to compete with GIRLS! Gosh - the mere thought!

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Fibbke · 02/07/2019 20:36

personal insults, sneering and random lunacy
Is that what's called 'projection'?

JacquesHammer · 02/07/2019 20:37

But I just wanted to mention it!!

You might have wanted to check first. I replied to you at the time Wink

Wouldn’t a PM have been better if you were so desperate for me to know you disagreed with me 😂😂

GPatz · 02/07/2019 20:37

After that superb meltdown, forget about hitting a a raw nerve, the OP's whole nervous system has been hammered Grin

JacquesHammer · 02/07/2019 20:38

@Oblomov19 are we totally at cross purposes here?

I’ve lost the plot! Grin

JacquesHammer · 02/07/2019 20:38

I just - quite simply- felt for the little lad being discriminated against

So you agree he’s a boy then? Smashing, we’ve got through to you!

Hebdenbridge · 02/07/2019 20:38

@JacquesHammer Have you had a transgender bloke try to join your team? No? Didn't think so

Eh? So we should be ok with it, as low Ng as it is effecting someone else's team, and not our own?? What about playing AGAINST teams with blokes in them?

I don't understand what you meant by that post?

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