Harry and Meghan-part 2

[BertrandRussell]

Following on from this -it was just getting interesting. Someone posted about how Meghan called herself a feminist but hadn’t earned the title. I was interested to know how you earned the title- but the thread ended.

I always love the ‘who would have thought that little girl who watched tennis with her dad grew up to be selling strawberries at Wimbledon’ Stories. They make me laugh.

Mine would be - ‘who would have thought that that tiny red haired little girl who had a terrible temper grew up to be... a rather tall red haired woman with a terrible temper’

“Why would security people do that for her and not others who are perhaps equally "important" and equally in need of privacy or security,”

I don’t know- I’m not a security person. But just assuming that M demanded a swathe of empty seats around her is just as much speculation. Maybe she did - maybe she didn’t.
Oh and I’d love to hear the names of the high profile women who openly call themselves feminists. Any other members of the royal family? A few politicians- but not even many of those....

Meghan's behaviour could be summed up as 'wants to have her cake and eat it'. Harry may be equally culpable, but all this precious behaviour has only started once she came on the scene. He was never one to make up special rules for himself before he met her.
Wants privacy but wants to draw attention to herself, and also wants to hold the cards at all times.
Wants to call herself a feminist when she's actually done nothing at all to demonstrate that she is one really. Yes, she's worked on a cookbook, that was great, but in real terms she has done nothing else but talk . I find the sexy ad completely at odds with her supposed outrage at the way women are exploited.
Wants to be part of an archaic institution with lots of privileges, but not adhere to the same rules everyone else in that institution does.
Wants to do things her own way with no reference to how what she does is perceived by the general public.
Wants to spend lots and lots of money and take private jets to be with her celebrity friends, yet lecture us on saving the planet.
Wants to control her image through social media whilst at the same time lecturing us about the use of social media.

What's more, Harry seems miserable and grumpy nearly all the time these days and has fallen out with his brother it seems. Not that this is her fault, but it doesn't seem to be making him happy.

Still not clear on what she’s actually done wrong. Given that we don’t know the seat stuff was instigated by her.

In fact, I’d die of shock if it was. Would Wimbledon really agree to cordon off valuable seats just because she wanted that? She’s not that powerful.

I don’t know- I’m not a security person.

I somehow suspected that you're not.
I'm not either. But it does seem odd that it would be done for her and not other members of the royal family if it wasn't requested by the person concerned.

It was a rhetorical question though and I credit you with the intelligence to realise that.
You don't seem to credit others with the intelligence to notice when you don't answer questions (while continually repeating questions yourself) or being a bit faux naive with statements like: "I don't know- I'm not a security person".

Maybe she did - maybe she didn’t.

I like that bit. You've got your spaces correctly positioned

“You don't seem to credit others with the intelligence to notice when you don't answer questions”
Happy to answer questions- what have I missed?

In fact, I’d die of shock if it was. Would Wimbledon really agree to cordon off valuable seats just because she wanted that? She’s not that powerful.

So why were they cordoned off?

But it does seem odd that it would be done for her and not other members of the royal family if it wasn't requested by the person concerned.

I find it much odder that they’d do it because she requested it. Why would they oblige her if it went against their commercial interests? Makes no sense.

So why were they cordoned off?

I’ve no idea, perhaps more kind of security concerns that we wouldn’t be privy to.

Harry may be equally culpable, but all this precious behaviour has only started once she came on the scene.

Serious commitments like marriage does change people. Don’t you think Meghans family think she changed too ?? Is Harry “blamed”?? Or is it only girls expected to be moulded ??

Misogyny right there. Relationships take a lot of compromise.. becoming parents brings out all sorts of emotions in both .. there are many reasons why Harry would change... perhaps being offended at how press handle his marriage ?? Feeling protective over the mother of his child ??? Since his one suffered ??

BertrandRussell
Happy to answer questions- what have I missed?

You posted a clip from Not The Nine O'Clock News about police racism prefixed by:

i’ll justn leave this here, shall I?

I asked (more than once, but gave up because you might feel harrassed, and I didn't want that) why something about police racism was relevant to this thread.

I agree that, very sadly, the DoS has been the victim of racism on occasion. I don't think every criticism of her is due to racism.

But police racism? When have the police been mean to her?

That was the question I asked and which you may have missed.

LaMarschallin

I think you missed the point of the clip spectacularly.

Faux naivety you say?

why were they cordoned off?

I’ve no idea, perhaps more kind of security concerns that we wouldn’t be privy to.

Of course!

Silly me.

I didn't realise that there'd be security concerns that the Duchess of Sussex would have that, say, the Duchess of Cambridge (likely to be queen and hence possibly more "important" unless we republicans get our way) wouldn't have.

I think you missed the point of the clip spectacularly.

Do you?

What was it then?

Well she's had death threats due to Harry committing "race betrayal" or whatever it's called

I did reply. I said “Oh, I just thought a bit of satire about “colour blindness” fitted in to the thread quite well.....”
The point of the sketch is not that it is police racism specifically. It’s about people saying “Oh, I don’t see colour” while reacting, often unconsciously, to another person’s colour. Practically everyone does it. A lot of the stuff about Meghan putting herself forward too much and being “confident” and not knowing her place comes from this.

I haven't seen either of them behaving in an attention seeking way. They seem quite normal to me.

It’s about people saying “Oh, I don’t see colour” while reacting, often unconsciously, to another person’s colour

I thought the policeman featured in the sketch was very obviously racist and didn't pretend otherwise.

You're right about the "colour blind" thing though, and it makes me wince when people do it.

I thought the policeman featured in the sketch was very obviously racist and didn't pretend otherwise. Exactly. I'm old enough to have seen that sketch when it was first aired. The police were routinely characterised as open racists in comedy at that time.

The significant line is “I can’t say I ever noticed, sarge”

But hey, if it doesn’t work for you, no problem!

BertrandRussell

The significant line is “I can’t say I ever noticed, sarge”

Funnily (or not so funnily) I wad just about to post that line and ask if it was what you meant

My apologies.

You're too cryptic for me.

*was.

Tsk!

You're too cryptic for me.

Meant as a compliment, btw.

IABUQueen

I think you missed the point of the clip spectacularly.

Faux naivety you say?

No. Real naivety, sadly.